White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally
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@renauda said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:
@jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:
What do you know?
Enough to know that I don't know very much about it.
You know a lot about history though.
Education is extremely important.
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There is an undeniable shift against Israel and the Jewish in the Democrat party. Too many years of trying to play too many sides in the game of identity politics. Right now, the BLM movement is at center stage... https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/from-left-to-right-jewish-groups-condemn-repellent-black-lives-matter-claim-of-israeli-genocide
You have rising figures like AOC https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/jns/aoc-praises-support-of-anti-semitic-groups-for-letter-censuring-israeli-sovereignty/article_3e3f2e12-828e-51b1-970c-4a0542b6dedc.html https://zioness.org/new-york-jewish-leaders-perplexed-that-aoc-wont-engage-with-them/
And we won't even mention Omar.
And just like @Aqua-Letifer , I've repeatedly heard mildly antisemitic remarks from liberal friends.
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@horace said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:
I would like to understand from Bach whether Israel was largely pro-Trump during his administration.
Fair enough
Basically splits along the pro and anti bibi lines
Pro bibi tended to be pro trump although with the caveat that bibi was usually seen as much more politically savvy
Anti bibi appreciated some of the decisions made (Jerusalem embassy, peace accords with UAE) but saw the same populism in trump that was happening with bibi (and in other places around the world, India, UK, etc)
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@bachophile said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:
@horace said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:
I would like to understand from Bach whether Israel was largely pro-Trump during his administration.
Fair enough
Basically splits along the pro and anti bibi lines
Pro bibi tended to be pro trump although with the caveat that bibi was usually seen as much more politically savvy
Anti bibi appreciated some of the decisions made (Jerusalem embassy, peace accords with UAE) but saw the same populism in trump that was happening with bibi (and in other places around the world, India, UK, etc)
So, along pop culture lines, it was a draw? In America, it was far from a draw. It was a dominating win against Trump.
Education is extremely important.
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“Little by little I am learning the art of being quite content by doing very little slowly” ~ Lionel Hardcastle
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@renauda said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:
@horace said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:
I am amused by how many Jews there are on WTF. What do they think they are doing? Idiots.
WTF is that supposed to mean?
It's supposed to mean that the team they think they are on, is not the team they are on.
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@loki said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:
In case anyone really wondered because social media and the MSM has scrambled so many brains, the US is indeed close allies with Saudi Arabia and Israel.
What does that mean? Do we sit at the same lunch table at the UN?
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@loki said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:
US is indeed close allies with Saudi Arabia
This one has always been tough. We have mutual interest in a stable SA - but they are one of the biggest harborers of terrorists and harbored the actual 9/11 terrorists.
Are they really allies? I guess that gets into the definition of what ally means.
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@xenon said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:
@loki said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:
US is indeed close allies with Saudi Arabia
This one has always been tough. We have mutual interest in a stable SA - but they are one of the biggest harborers of terrorists and harbored the actual 9/11 terrorists.
Are they really allies? I guess that gets into the definition of what ally means.
Strategic allies. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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"Don't pay attention to what they say, pay attention to what they do..."
Or in this case, what they don't do:
President Joe Biden is the first American leader in 40 years not to contact Israel’s leaders as one of his first actions in the White House
