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  • bachophileB Offline
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    bachophile
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    #19

    Former head of military intelligence

    Straight talker.

    What matters is not the stupid things in headlights, yes phone call no phone call

    What matters is what’s really said and done between two allies

    The public stuff is fluff and irrelevant. It has its uses. But it’s not the meat and potatoes.

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    • bachophileB bachophile

      @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

      Enjoy!

      Biden doesn't like Israel.

      I think u really believe that

      Kinda sad.

      JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #20

      @bachophile said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

      @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

      Enjoy!

      Biden doesn't like Israel.

      I think u really believe that

      Kinda sad.

      Here's what I believe... I believe Joe has never been a die-on-this-hill politician. He's made a career out of the smile, handshake and the stance of the moment. Right now, he's elderly, declining in his mental faculties and intensely monitored and handled by his team.

      His team is much more influenced by current Dem (read Leftist) thought, than perhaps Joe is. Part of that current Dem thought aligns nicely with Ms. KathyK's historical thoughts about Israel and its place in the world. I think a lot of this current crop of Dems secretly wish the Germans would have finished the job...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @renauda said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

        @taiwan_girl said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

        I will admit that I dont know much about the situation, but I know it is very important from a "history" standpoint.

        Not to worry. Other than bachophile, I doubt anyone here knows much about it either. And even then, those that purport to know will never concede that bach knows much more than they do.

        All I know is that Biden will not abandon Israel as an ally, despite the fact he most likely does not agree with Bibi Netanyahu's politics.

        I know enough to skim the surface.

        What do you know?

        RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by
        #21

        @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

        What do you know?

        Enough to know that I don't know very much about it.

        Elbows up!

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @bachophile said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

          @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

          Enjoy!

          Biden doesn't like Israel.

          I think u really believe that

          Kinda sad.

          Here's what I believe... I believe Joe has never been a die-on-this-hill politician. He's made a career out of the smile, handshake and the stance of the moment. Right now, he's elderly, declining in his mental faculties and intensely monitored and handled by his team.

          His team is much more influenced by current Dem (read Leftist) thought, than perhaps Joe is. Part of that current Dem thought aligns nicely with Ms. KathyK's historical thoughts about Israel and its place in the world. I think a lot of this current crop of Dems secretly wish the Germans would have finished the job...

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
          #22

          @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

          I think a lot of this current crop of Dems secretly wish the Germans would have finished the job...

          I think you're spending too much time in the right wing echo chamber.

          Of course, as we know there's absolutely no anti-semitism amongst the far right. Anybody who thinks otherwise will be shot with a Jewish space-laser.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

            I think a lot of this current crop of Dems secretly wish the Germans would have finished the job...

            I think you're spending too much time in the right wing echo chamber.

            Of course, as we know there's absolutely no anti-semitism amongst the far right. Anybody who thinks otherwise will be shot with a Jewish space-laser.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

              I think a lot of this current crop of Dems secretly wish the Germans would have finished the job...

              I think you're spending too much time in the right wing echo chamber.

              Of course, as we know there's absolutely no anti-semitism amongst the far right. Anybody who thinks otherwise will be shot with a Jewish space-laser.

              JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              #24

              @doctor-phibes said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

              @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

              I think a lot of this current crop of Dems secretly wish the Germans would have finished the job...

              I think you're spending too much time in the right wing echo chamber.

              Of course, as we know there's absolutely no anti-semitism amongst the far right. Anybody who thinks otherwise will be shot with a Jewish space-laser.

              There's a difference between 5% of the right and a prevalent sentiment among 20% of the Left.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • bachophileB bachophile

                @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                Enjoy!

                Biden doesn't like Israel.

                I think u really believe that

                Kinda sad.

                Catseye3C Offline
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                Catseye3
                wrote on last edited by
                #25

                @bachophile said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                Enjoy!
                Biden doesn't like Israel.

                I think u really believe that
                Kinda sad.

                Yeah, this whole headline reeks of bullshit. Not that that will stop his detractors from beating him over the head with it anyway.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @axtremus said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                  @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                  Senile people believe almost anything.

                  Like he won in a landslide, like there was widespread massive voter fraud, like the VPOTUS could overturn electoral college results, like COVID-19 could go away on its own, etc.

                  Yes, Biden thinks he won in an electoral landslide.

                  Of course, he also likes to grope children. There is a reason some people now refer to the team in the White House as "Pedo Joe and the Ho".

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                  Catseye3
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                  #26

                  @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                  some people now refer to the team in the White House as "Pedo Joe and the Ho".

                  Oh? What people are those?

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                    What do you know?

                    Enough to know that I don't know very much about it.

                    HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #27

                    @renauda said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                    @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                    What do you know?

                    Enough to know that I don't know very much about it.

                    You know a lot about history though.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @renauda said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                      @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                      What do you know?

                      Enough to know that I don't know very much about it.

                      You know a lot about history though.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #28

                      @horace

                      Fossilized knowledge.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #29

                        I would like to understand from Bach whether Israel was largely pro-Trump during his administration.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          #30

                          There is an undeniable shift against Israel and the Jewish in the Democrat party. Too many years of trying to play too many sides in the game of identity politics. Right now, the BLM movement is at center stage... https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/from-left-to-right-jewish-groups-condemn-repellent-black-lives-matter-claim-of-israeli-genocide

                          You have rising figures like AOC https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/jns/aoc-praises-support-of-anti-semitic-groups-for-letter-censuring-israeli-sovereignty/article_3e3f2e12-828e-51b1-970c-4a0542b6dedc.html https://zioness.org/new-york-jewish-leaders-perplexed-that-aoc-wont-engage-with-them/

                          And we won't even mention Omar.

                          And just like @Aqua-Letifer , I've repeatedly heard mildly antisemitic remarks from liberal friends.

                          The Brad

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                          • HoraceH Offline
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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #31

                            I am amused by how many Jews there are on WTF. What do they think they are doing? Idiots.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              I would like to understand from Bach whether Israel was largely pro-Trump during his administration.

                              bachophileB Offline
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                              bachophile
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #32

                              @horace said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                              I would like to understand from Bach whether Israel was largely pro-Trump during his administration.

                              Fair enough

                              Basically splits along the pro and anti bibi lines

                              Pro bibi tended to be pro trump although with the caveat that bibi was usually seen as much more politically savvy

                              Anti bibi appreciated some of the decisions made (Jerusalem embassy, peace accords with UAE) but saw the same populism in trump that was happening with bibi (and in other places around the world, India, UK, etc)

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                              • bachophileB bachophile

                                @horace said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                I would like to understand from Bach whether Israel was largely pro-Trump during his administration.

                                Fair enough

                                Basically splits along the pro and anti bibi lines

                                Pro bibi tended to be pro trump although with the caveat that bibi was usually seen as much more politically savvy

                                Anti bibi appreciated some of the decisions made (Jerusalem embassy, peace accords with UAE) but saw the same populism in trump that was happening with bibi (and in other places around the world, India, UK, etc)

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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #33

                                @bachophile said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                @horace said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                I would like to understand from Bach whether Israel was largely pro-Trump during his administration.

                                Fair enough

                                Basically splits along the pro and anti bibi lines

                                Pro bibi tended to be pro trump although with the caveat that bibi was usually seen as much more politically savvy

                                Anti bibi appreciated some of the decisions made (Jerusalem embassy, peace accords with UAE) but saw the same populism in trump that was happening with bibi (and in other places around the world, India, UK, etc)

                                So, along pop culture lines, it was a draw? In America, it was far from a draw. It was a dominating win against Trump.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @bachophile said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                  @horace said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                  I would like to understand from Bach whether Israel was largely pro-Trump during his administration.

                                  Fair enough

                                  Basically splits along the pro and anti bibi lines

                                  Pro bibi tended to be pro trump although with the caveat that bibi was usually seen as much more politically savvy

                                  Anti bibi appreciated some of the decisions made (Jerusalem embassy, peace accords with UAE) but saw the same populism in trump that was happening with bibi (and in other places around the world, India, UK, etc)

                                  So, along pop culture lines, it was a draw? In America, it was far from a draw. It was a dominating win against Trump.

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                                  bachophile
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                                  #34

                                  @horace yea a draw

                                  Israel has been in a continuous draw for the past two years, hence the repeated elections.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    I am amused by how many Jews there are on WTF. What do they think they are doing? Idiots.

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                                    Renauda
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                                    #35

                                    @horace said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                    I am amused by how many Jews there are on WTF. What do they think they are doing? Idiots.

                                    WTF is that supposed to mean?

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                                      @horace said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                      I am amused by how many Jews there are on WTF. What do they think they are doing? Idiots.

                                      WTF is that supposed to mean?

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #36

                                      @renauda said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                      @horace said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                      I am amused by how many Jews there are on WTF. What do they think they are doing? Idiots.

                                      WTF is that supposed to mean?

                                      It's supposed to mean that the team they think they are on, is not the team they are on.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Renauda
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                                        I still don't see what that has to do with WTF?

                                        IOW, WTF is WTF?

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          I still don't see what that has to do with WTF?

                                          IOW, WTF is WTF?

                                          JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
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                                          @renauda said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                          I still don't see what that has to do with WTF?

                                          IOW, WTF is WTF?

                                          Horace is referring to the Well-Tempered Forum , home to a gaggle of liberal refugees from the OCR.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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