Gotcha!
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wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 15:28 last edited by
Doctor Trump made a mistake.
Doctors bury their mistakes.
It goes with the territory.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 15:31 last edited by
There was hope. He expressed hope. But the French trial is not yet definitive I don't think.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 16:43 last edited by
“VA Study of Anti-Malarial Drug Shows No Benefit for Use with Coronavirus Patients
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Researchers found that 28 percent of patients given hydroxychloroquine died, while 11 percent died with normal care. Hydroxychloroquine did not have an effect on patients’ need for breathing medicine. The anti-malarial drug has been known to produce serious side effects including problems with heart rhythms.
...“The paper: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1.full.pdf
It’s only the VA, so who knows?
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wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 16:51 last edited by
I have never inserted my head in this issue at all, but I happened to notice a tweet the other day saying that Trump had been oddly silent on HCQ the previous few days. Maybe he had a heads up.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 18:05 last edited by
On a completely unrelated note, I've got 200 kilos of fish-tank cleaner, going cheap, if anybody's interested.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 18:17 last edited by
Trump went to war on this one, I suspect CNN.
He won on vents and looks like he lost on this one.
No one keeps score of course over the last 3.5 years.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 18:50 last edited by jon-nyc
Like I said, I never had an opinion on HQA (still don’t, there will be more studies).
But re the politics of it, I thought it was characteristically irresponsible of Trump to tout it as enthusiastically as he did, and I thought it was characteristically irresponsible of the media to assume that just because Trump said it it would turn out to be false.
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Like I said, I never had an opinion on HQA (still don’t, there will be more studies).
But re the politics of it, I thought it was characteristically irresponsible of Trump to tout it as enthusiastically as he did, and I thought it was characteristically irresponsible of the media to assume that just because Trump said it it would turn out to be false.
wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 18:56 last edited byLike I said, I never had an opinion on HQA (still don’t, there will be more studies).
But re the politics of it, I thought it was characteristically irresponsible of Trump to tout it as enthusiastically as he did, and I thought it was characteristically irresponsible of the media to assume that just because Trump said it it would turn out to be false.
This.
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Like I said, I never had an opinion on HQA (still don’t, there will be more studies).
But re the politics of it, I thought it was characteristically irresponsible of Trump to tout it as enthusiastically as he did, and I thought it was characteristically irresponsible of the media to assume that just because Trump said it it would turn out to be false.
wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 19:00 last edited byLike I said, I never had an opinion on HQA (still don’t, there will be more studies).
But re the politics of it, I thought it was characteristically irresponsible of Trump to tout it as enthusiastically as he did, and I thought it was characteristically irresponsible of the media to assume that just because Trump said it it would turn out to be false.
I agree 99%
Initially the drug was the only hope so it might have been important way back when to offer the oxygen mask and life preserver.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 19:44 last edited by
I would ask for it, anyway.
I'd ask them to bring me the pills along with some eggs and toast.
Are eggs good for you now? When I was a kid, eggs were like, poison. Then, it was "eat egg whites only." Then, it was eggs are good for you.
Oh, and also a cup of coffee. Maybe a glass of wine, if it's in the evening.
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I would ask for it, anyway.
I'd ask them to bring me the pills along with some eggs and toast.
Are eggs good for you now? When I was a kid, eggs were like, poison. Then, it was "eat egg whites only." Then, it was eggs are good for you.
Oh, and also a cup of coffee. Maybe a glass of wine, if it's in the evening.
wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 19:46 last edited byDon't forget the bacon. Bacon is now on the good list.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 21:08 last edited by
Doesn't the virus head for the lungs?
Breathalyzer tests work because the alcohol is partly breathed out in vapor form.
Alcohol meets virus in the lungs - bye, bye virus.
That's just my own observation, no Harvard study yet.
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I would ask for it, anyway.
I'd ask them to bring me the pills along with some eggs and toast.
Are eggs good for you now? When I was a kid, eggs were like, poison. Then, it was "eat egg whites only." Then, it was eggs are good for you.
Oh, and also a cup of coffee. Maybe a glass of wine, if it's in the evening.
wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 21:47 last edited byI would ask for it, anyway.
I'd ask them to bring me the pills along with some eggs and toast.
Are eggs good for you now? When I was a kid, eggs were like, poison. Then, it was "eat egg whites only." Then, it was eggs are good for you.
Oh, and also a cup of coffee. Maybe a glass of wine, if it's in the evening.
My SIL was quite ill. A hop, skip and a jump from the vent, ill. They put her on the cocktail and she turned around. Not dramatically, but turned around. Yes, that's anecdotal, but until something is proven to work, I'd take it.
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Like I said, I never had an opinion on HQA (still don’t, there will be more studies).
But re the politics of it, I thought it was characteristically irresponsible of Trump to tout it as enthusiastically as he did, and I thought it was characteristically irresponsible of the media to assume that just because Trump said it it would turn out to be false.
wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 22:06 last edited by IvorythumperLike I said, I never had an opinion on HQA (still don’t, there will be more studies).
But re the politics of it, I thought it was characteristically irresponsible of Trump to tout it as enthusiastically as he did, and I thought it was characteristically irresponsible of the media to assume that just because Trump said it it would turn out to be false.
Trump didn't "tout" it. That's the rhetorical language of the memetic narrative that the Left keeps playing back, as if he were a snake oil salesman peddling a miracle cure. And then of course it had to be because he was making money from investments in a pharma company that makes HCQ. Go back to the original presser (March 17, I think) when it was first mentioned -- he listed several hopeful directions for a cure.
CQ/HCQ was also part of the S Korean recommendations from mid Feb.
This "touting" is all political BS.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 22:50 last edited by jon-nyc