Fox Lawyers Up
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wrote on 5 Apr 2020, 11:03 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Fox Lawyers Up:
Good. Those named individuals have blood on their hands.
Oh, bull shit.
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wrote on 5 Apr 2020, 11:11 last edited by
The polling is blindingly clear linking political affiliation with level of concern about the virus.
Surely Fox’s overall attitude about it, at least up to mid-March, was a major contributor to that. As was Trump’s.
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The polling is blindingly clear linking political affiliation with level of concern about the virus.
Surely Fox’s overall attitude about it, at least up to mid-March, was a major contributor to that. As was Trump’s.
wrote on 5 Apr 2020, 11:14 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Fox Lawyers Up:
The polling is blindingly clear linking political affiliation with level of concern about the virus.
Surely Fox’s overall attitude about it, at least up to mid-March, was a major contributor to that. As was Trump’s.
It wasn't Fox people telling everyone the virus was no big deal, it was Madcow and Morning Joe.
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wrote on 5 Apr 2020, 11:19 last edited by
Well, it was almost everybody in the beginning. Different outlets started taking it seriously at different times. Fox lagged overall, taking their lead from Trump who in mid-March was still treating this more like a PR crisis for his campaign than a public health crisis.
The only crowd that got it right very early seems to have been a subset of Silicon Valley, who were derided for it.
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Well, it was almost everybody in the beginning. Different outlets started taking it seriously at different times. Fox lagged overall, taking their lead from Trump who in mid-March was still treating this more like a PR crisis for his campaign than a public health crisis.
The only crowd that got it right very early seems to have been a subset of Silicon Valley, who were derided for it.
wrote on 5 Apr 2020, 11:20 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Fox Lawyers Up:
Well, it was almost everybody in the beginning. Different outlets started taking it seriously at different times. Fox lagged overall, taking their lead from Trump who in mid-March was still treating this more like a PR crisis for his campaign than a public health crisis.
The only crowd that got it right very early seems to have been a subset of Silicon Valley, who were derided for it.
Bull shit.
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wrote on 5 Apr 2020, 11:20 last edited by
Oh, and me and Jolly got it right early too. lol
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The polling is blindingly clear linking political affiliation with level of concern about the virus.
Surely Fox’s overall attitude about it, at least up to mid-March, was a major contributor to that. As was Trump’s.
wrote on 5 Apr 2020, 12:03 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Fox Lawyers Up:
The polling is blindingly clear linking political affiliation with level of concern about the virus.
Surely Fox’s overall attitude about it, at least up to mid-March, was a major contributor to that. As was Trump’s.
Democrat places had the victims first and they had the concern first.
Red counties are still way behind blue counties in body count.
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wrote on 5 Apr 2020, 12:05 last edited by Jolly 4 May 2020, 12:06
But I don't constantly go back and point out who was right or wrong, and when it happened.
I understand that decent, informed people can disagree on viral spread, especially considering what we really knew, when we knew it. I also understand the woke environment politicians were dealing with at the time.
Doesn't anybody remember all the xenophobic labels plastered on Trump, when he started banning some Chinese flights? That was the world we were living in.
That world no longer exists.
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wrote on 5 Apr 2020, 12:15 last edited by jon-nyc 4 May 2020, 12:17
To be honest I heard about them mostly after the fact. I usually rely on Davis, my CNN connection, to tell me things but he must have been asleep at the switch that day.
Interesting and overlooked (though I think I had a thread about it when it happened in Italy) is that before the airlines acted their pilots did. Essentially refusing to board. This happened in China and it happened in Italy. The airline suspensions were a reaction to that. Trumps action followed.
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wrote on 5 Apr 2020, 12:16 last edited by
But for sure the woke left got this wrong early and often as is their habit.
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Sorry, can't do. Those shows are just as much opinion as Rachel Or Lemon. If it was hard news, you'd have a leg to stand on.
wrote on 5 Apr 2020, 16:52 last edited by@Jolly said in Fox Lawyers Up:
Sorry, can't do. Those shows are just as much opinion as Rachel Or Lemon. If it was hard news, you'd have a leg to stand on.
I agree with Jolly. As wrong as it was, they were spouting an opinion. No better, no worse, than people on the other side.
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wrote on 5 Apr 2020, 17:12 last edited by
Easier and cheaper all around to change the name of the show from Fox News to Fox Something-Else like "The Fox Show". Its fans won't care, anyway.
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wrote on 5 Apr 2020, 17:15 last edited by
I don’t think ‘getting it wrong’ leads to any liability. It was the period of time between when they knew it was wrong and finally made the decision to change. Hence my point about discovery.
Other networks evolved on the issue. Fox (For the most part) did a top-down about-face, basically the day Trump did his first serious prime time speech about it.
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wrote on 5 Apr 2020, 17:16 last edited by
The Murdoch organization has done much worse in the past and got away with it, or at least survived to tell the tale. They closed a newspaper in the UK as an act of contrition, but it really meant nothing.