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  • markM Offline
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    bury them.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Sorry, can't do. Those shows are just as much opinion as Rachel Or Lemon. If it was hard news, you'd have a leg to stand on.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Good. Those named individuals have blood on their hands.

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        @jon-nyc said in Fox Lawyers Up:

        Good. Those named individuals have blood on their hands.

        Oh, bull shit.

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          The polling is blindingly clear linking political affiliation with level of concern about the virus.

          Surely Fox’s overall attitude about it, at least up to mid-March, was a major contributor to that. As was Trump’s.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            The polling is blindingly clear linking political affiliation with level of concern about the virus.

            Surely Fox’s overall attitude about it, at least up to mid-March, was a major contributor to that. As was Trump’s.

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            @jon-nyc said in Fox Lawyers Up:

            The polling is blindingly clear linking political affiliation with level of concern about the virus.

            Surely Fox’s overall attitude about it, at least up to mid-March, was a major contributor to that. As was Trump’s.

            It wasn't Fox people telling everyone the virus was no big deal, it was Madcow and Morning Joe.

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              Well, it was almost everybody in the beginning. Different outlets started taking it seriously at different times. Fox lagged overall, taking their lead from Trump who in mid-March was still treating this more like a PR crisis for his campaign than a public health crisis.

              The only crowd that got it right very early seems to have been a subset of Silicon Valley, who were derided for it.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Well, it was almost everybody in the beginning. Different outlets started taking it seriously at different times. Fox lagged overall, taking their lead from Trump who in mid-March was still treating this more like a PR crisis for his campaign than a public health crisis.

                The only crowd that got it right very early seems to have been a subset of Silicon Valley, who were derided for it.

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                @jon-nyc said in Fox Lawyers Up:

                Well, it was almost everybody in the beginning. Different outlets started taking it seriously at different times. Fox lagged overall, taking their lead from Trump who in mid-March was still treating this more like a PR crisis for his campaign than a public health crisis.

                The only crowd that got it right very early seems to have been a subset of Silicon Valley, who were derided for it.

                Bull shit.

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                  Oh, and me and Jolly got it right early too. lol

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    The polling is blindingly clear linking political affiliation with level of concern about the virus.

                    Surely Fox’s overall attitude about it, at least up to mid-March, was a major contributor to that. As was Trump’s.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Fox Lawyers Up:

                    The polling is blindingly clear linking political affiliation with level of concern about the virus.

                    Surely Fox’s overall attitude about it, at least up to mid-March, was a major contributor to that. As was Trump’s.

                    Democrat places had the victims first and they had the concern first.

                    Red counties are still way behind blue counties in body count.

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                      But I don't constantly go back and point out who was right or wrong, and when it happened.

                      I understand that decent, informed people can disagree on viral spread, especially considering what we really knew, when we knew it. I also understand the woke environment politicians were dealing with at the time.

                      Doesn't anybody remember all the xenophobic labels plastered on Trump, when he started banning some Chinese flights? That was the world we were living in.

                      That world no longer exists.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        To be honest I heard about them mostly after the fact. I usually rely on Davis, my CNN connection, to tell me things but he must have been asleep at the switch that day.

                        Interesting and overlooked (though I think I had a thread about it when it happened in Italy) is that before the airlines acted their pilots did. Essentially refusing to board. This happened in China and it happened in Italy. The airline suspensions were a reaction to that. Trumps action followed.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          But for sure the woke left got this wrong early and often as is their habit.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            Sorry, can't do. Those shows are just as much opinion as Rachel Or Lemon. If it was hard news, you'd have a leg to stand on.

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                            @Jolly said in Fox Lawyers Up:

                            Sorry, can't do. Those shows are just as much opinion as Rachel Or Lemon. If it was hard news, you'd have a leg to stand on.

                            I agree with Jolly. As wrong as it was, they were spouting an opinion. No better, no worse, than people on the other side.

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                              Easier and cheaper all around to change the name of the show from Fox News to Fox Something-Else like "The Fox Show". Its fans won't care, anyway.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                I don’t think ‘getting it wrong’ leads to any liability. It was the period of time between when they knew it was wrong and finally made the decision to change. Hence my point about discovery.

                                Other networks evolved on the issue. Fox (For the most part) did a top-down about-face, basically the day Trump did his first serious prime time speech about it.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  The Murdoch organization has done much worse in the past and got away with it, or at least survived to tell the tale. They closed a newspaper in the UK as an act of contrition, but it really meant nothing.

                                  I was only joking

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