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  • George KG Offline
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    WHO changes definition of Herd Immunity.JPG

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      WHO changes definition of Herd Immunity.JPG

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      @george-k Got the text or a higher resolution picture for this? The low res screenshot posted is hard to read. :man-shrugging:

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        @george-k Got the text or a higher resolution picture for this? The low res screenshot posted is hard to read. :man-shrugging:

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        @axtremus

        June 9, 2020: Herd Immunity is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection.

        November 13, 2020: Herd Immunity is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached. Herd Immunity is reached by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Thanks, @George-K. It seems to me both versions have a social message to them, and people can argue which social message they prefer or believe is “more responsible.” If I want a strictly scientific or functional definition, I would define it just by its effect rather than by the methods used to get there.

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            Thanks, @George-K. It seems to me both versions have a social message to them, and people can argue which social message they prefer or believe is “more responsible.” If I want a strictly scientific or functional definition, I would define it just by its effect rather than by the methods used to get there.

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            @axtremus

            (Wikipedia):

            Herd immunity (also called herd effect, community immunity, or population immunity) is a form of indirect protection from infectious disease that can occur with some diseases when a sufficient percentage of a population has become immune to an infection, whether through vaccination or previous infections, thereby reducing the likelihood of infection for individuals who lack immunity.[1][2][3] Immune individuals are unlikely to contribute to disease transmission, disrupting chains of infection, which stops or slows the spread of disease.[4] The greater the proportion of immune individuals in a community, the smaller the probability that non-immune individuals will come into contact with an infectious individual.[

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              That’s just stupid.

              As it is, Herd immunity was already misused all year by the ‘hold my beer’ crowd.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                I will see if I can find it, but there was an interesting article last year in the National Geographic magazine talking about how heard immunity without a major vaccine effort did not work. Almost impossible to get there

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                  Even if that’s true, herd immunity is an outcome, or a state of a population, and the definition shouldn’t encapsulate any particular method of achieving it. Likewise with the “let ‘er rip” crowd that euphemized their strategy as “herd immunity”. Herd immunity isn’t a strategy, it’s a potential outcome of one.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    @axtremus

                    June 9, 2020: Herd Immunity is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection.

                    November 13, 2020: Herd Immunity is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached. Herd Immunity is reached by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it.

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                    @george-k said in WHO changes definitions:

                    @axtremus

                    Herd Immunity is reached by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it.

                    Obviously a vaccine salesman.

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