Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss
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The Bush family took some shots at Trump during the campaign and certainly did not deign to help him during his presidency.
Trump can certainly hold a grudge.
As for McConnell, the Murder Turtle has sharp elbows and is pretty good at his craft.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.
OK, I'll bite.
There seems to be little doubt that Bush 43 engaged in some misadventures which have left the nation poorer (see Afghanistan - but you can also lay some of the blame on 44). I have no informed opinion on how the financial crisis at the end of his term was handled other than to say it was a cluster.
McConnell? The consummate politician. He's as savvy as Pelosi, and he knows the game - certainly he knows it better than Trump does. I think Trump is a binary type of guy - no nuance, no shades of grey. McConnell is not that type of person.
@george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.
OK, I'll bite.
There seems to be little doubt that Bush 43 engaged in some misadventures which have left the nation poorer (see Afghanistan - but you can also lay some of the blame on 44). I have no informed opinion on how the financial crisis at the end of his term was handled other than to say it was a cluster.
McConnell? The consummate politician. He's as savvy as Pelosi, and he knows the game - certainly he knows it better than Trump does. I think Trump is a binary type of guy - no nuance, no shades of grey. McConnell is not that type of person.
Oddly enough, I pretty much agree with all of that.
I must admit, when I said 'Those who support Trump', you weren't somebody who sprang immediately to mind.
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The Bush family took some shots at Trump during the campaign and certainly did not deign to help him during his presidency.
Trump can certainly hold a grudge.
As for McConnell, the Murder Turtle has sharp elbows and is pretty good at his craft.
@jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump can certainly hold a grudge.
Arguably Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.
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@jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump can certainly hold a grudge.
Arguably Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.
@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.
Well, that and his ego.
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Trump wants to depose McConnell, but the Senate GOP appears unwilling to go along.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-looks-for-challenger-to-depose-mitch-mcconnell-as-split-widens-11632060002
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Mr. Trump has spoken recently with senators and allies about trying to depose Mr. McConnell and whether any Republicans are interested in mounting a challenge, according to people familiar with the conversations. There is little appetite among Senate Republicans for such a plan, lawmakers and aides said, but the discussions risk driving a wedge deeper between the most influential figure in the Republican Party and its highest-ranking member in elected office.
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Trump Gets 58% Support of Republicans, Pence 13%, DeSantis 9% in 2024 Primary Poll
Marco Rubio and Nikki Haley tied for fourth place at three percent each.
But if Trump decides not to run, then Pence and DeSantis would move up to the first and second places, Ted Cruz would barge into the third place.
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Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....
Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.
If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.
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Maricopa Republicans Call on Arizona GOP Chair Kelli Ward to Resign Over Election 'Lies'
After the Cyber Ninja “audit” found that Biden has won the election with an even larger margin than the certified results …
Several Maricopa County Republican leaders have called on Arizona's GOP Chair Kelli Ward to resign, slamming her for promoting election "lies" …
… Maricopa County Supervisor Clint Hickman, a Republican, urged Arizona's GOP Governor Doug Ducey as well as Treasurer Kimberly Yee to push Ward to resign. Ward was a staunch supporter of the audit and continues to question the results of the election despite Cyber Ninjas' findings. … -
Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....
Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.
If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.
@larry said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....
Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.
If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.
Still refusing, isn't he?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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https://www.boltonsuperpac.com/poll_092921.php
John Bolton’s SuperPAC released poll results showing Trump tied with DeSantis in popularity among Republicans for 2024.
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https://news.yahoo.com/trump-urges-republicans-sit-coming-214714254.html
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-election-2020-biden_n_61674e95e4b028316c91016d
“If we don’t solve the Presidential Election Fraud of 2020...Republicans will not be voting in ’22 or ’24,” Trump said in a statement on Wednesday. “It is the single most important thing for Republicans to do.”
If the Republicans were to abstain from voting in 2022 and 2024 because of what they perceive to be “fraud” in the 2020 election, are the rest of the electorate going to miss them?
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Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....
Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.
If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.
@larry said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....
Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.
If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.
FYI
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Nearly Quarter of Republicans Still Think Trump 'Likely' to Be Reinstated in 2021: Poll
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Even though the U.S. Constitution doesn't provide a mechanism for the "reinstatement" of a president who lost an election, 22 percent of Republican voters still think Trump will "likely" be reinstated before the end of the year, according to a new Economist/YouGov poll.
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Of those, 11 percent say it's "very likely" Trump will be reinstated and 11 percent say it's "somewhat likely." The number of Republican voters who believe that about Trump was far greater than Democratic voters—12 percent—and even slightly greater than the 19 percent of Trump voters.
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I dunno about reinstated, but he might run and win again.
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https://www.axios.com/bill-cassidy-trump-2024-46df97a8-e48e-49d1-b037-9e6863ef7471.html
Bill Cassidy, Senate Republican from Louisiana, openly doubts that Trump could win in 2024, recounts Trump's losing records, and says he will not vote for Trump in 2024.
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@larry said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....
Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.
If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.
Still refusing, isn't he?
@jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@larry said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....
Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.
If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.
Still refusing, isn't he?
Some more.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gops-short-term-sugar-high-in-donald-trump-wont-last-georgias-republican-lt-gov-predicts
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MANCHESTER, N.H. - Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan says he’s getting "very little push back" from fellow Republicans over his burgeoning effort to reboot what he hopes will be a post-Donald Trump GOP.Duncan spotlights that other Republicans have quietly come up to him and thanked him for "doing the right thing" and tell him "this means a lot for this country, this means a lot for this party."
Georgia’s lieutenant governor made his comments in a national exclusive interview with Fox News and during an address to an audience at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics on Tuesday, where Duncan kicked off the inaugural event to sell "GOP 2.0," the idea behind his new book and his evolving push to fix a Republican Party that he says has been damaged by former President Trump.
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Of course that‘s in New Hampshire; may not work out the same way had he said that in the deep South.
