Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss
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@catseye3 said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
At this early juncture pundits believe 2022 outcome is 50-50 odds for GOP majority and the GOP taking the House.
I posted this yesterday. Am repeating it since I don't get no respect. "Here's an excerpt from a NYT opinion piece by Ross Douthat, yesterday: "But that note didn’t adequately convey just how despairing a lot of progressives have become, treating the hypothetical where Trump (or, for that matter, some other Republican nominee) actually succeeds in overturning an election defeat not just as a possibility but as a likely outcome in 2024, the destination to which we’re probably headed absent some unexpected change.
“This is where it’s going,” the press critic Jay Rosen of New York University tweeted recently, about a scenario in which state legislatures, the House and the Senate would simply hand the presidency to the G.O.P. nominee, “and there is presently nothing on the horizon that would stop it.”
See, that's the problem. You're buying this crap about handing an election to a candidate(s). Almost every bill I've seen specifies valid signatures on mail in ballots and/or ID at the poling place (either early or on election day).
Now, how is this handing an election to the GOP?
Black, yellow, white and brown people are too stupid to sign their own name? They're too stupid to obtain a driver's license or state issued ID?
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
Easy ...
Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.
"ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.
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@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
Easy ...
Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.
"ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.
Anyone can get an ID.
What's your point?
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@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
Easy ...
Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.
"ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.
ID is hard to get. Okay then. I believe you. For me it’s the opposite. I can’t function without ID.
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@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
Easy ...
Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.
"ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.
ID is hard to get. Okay then. I believe you. For me it’s the opposite. I can’t function without ID.
The Democrat party is not in the business of encouraging functional voters. They are in the business of encouraging Democrat voters.
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@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
Easy ...
Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.
"ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.
ID is hard to get. Okay then. I believe you. For me it’s the opposite. I can’t function without ID.
I agree with this. In the US today, it is weird that a significant amount of people would not or cannot get an ID. If this were rural India, okay, there are some barriers. But in the US????
Of course there are some people, but I believe that for some reason or another (mental issues, etc.), they do not want to get an ID. But for everyone else, there really is not a excuse.
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@taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
But in the US????
There is nobody, except for a few extreme cases, who cannot easily get an ID.
Nobody.
Easily.
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@copper said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
But in the US????
There is nobody, except for a few extreme cases, who cannot easily get an ID.
Nobody.
Easily.
Shhhhh. Just like people who won’t take the vaccine you have people who truly believe it’s a thing. You could video how easy it is and it wouldn’t matter.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/25/donald-trump-2022-elections-496126
Trump is getting back on the trail.
And GOP politicians still want his endorsement very much.
Aides say Trump wants to play a role in winning back the House in the 2022 midterm elections, and he has released a slew of endorsements for pro-Trump candidates in Senate and House races across the country. He announced a MAGA rally for July 3 in Sarasota, Fla., and is expected to also hold rallies in Georgia to support Republican Rep. Jody Hice, who is running to replace secretary of state Brad Raffensperger, another Republican whom Trump blames for his loss. Trump is also set to go to Alabama to support Rep. Mo Brooks, a Republican who is running for Senate. And in July, Trump will be the keynote speaker at the Conservative Political Action Convention in Dallas, Texas.
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There has been discussion among Trump aides ahead of Saturday’s rally about not allowing candidates backstage to take photos with the former president for fear that those images could later be used to falsely imply they received his endorsement. Trump aides have been increasingly aggressive about pushing back on efforts from candidates to suggest they have Trump’s backing when they don’t.
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Trump’s support has been sought after in the Ohio Senate race, where earlier this year a handful of them met with the former president in an Apprentice-style sit down where they jockeyed to impress him. Trump has so far remained neutral in the contest. Some of the Republican candidates are expected to attend the pre-rally fundraiser.
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Nikki Haley is sticking with Trump.
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/23/politics/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner/index.html
Ivanka and Jared distance themsevles from Trump, though you can argue that this is really not reflective of the GOP since one can argue that Ivanka and Jared would not have much to do with the GOP if it were not for Donald Trump getting into GOP politics.
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Mike Pence booed, called traitor at conservative Christian conference
For @Mik and anyone else who like to believe that Trump supporters support Trump as a matter of policy rather than as a matter of personality, this crowd who booed Pence do not appear to fit this categorization. There is no reason to believe that any one who supports Trump's policy rather than Trump the person would boo Pence or call Pence a traitor.
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The notion that it's difficult to get an ID in the US is ridiculous. When one gets their information purely from the media, one actually believes that. But when you talk directly to the people they claim have difficulty getting ID'S THEY every single one will tell you it's not true, and then show you their ID. That's the trouble with basing your opinions on what you read - you end up believing the shit promoted by the Left.
To believe a lot of people have difficulty getting an ID means, just a tiny list....
- Black people can't go to a hospital
- Black people can't get a checking account or use the banking system
- Black people aren't allowed to drive a car
- Black people aren't allowed to get bloodwork done
- Black people arent allowed to do much of anything....
Black people are insulted by the notion that they are too stupid to go get an ID. They are insulted by the racist logic behind it, and many see it for what it is - the same attitude the democrats had and used to justify enslaving them.
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@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Mike Pence booed, called traitor at conservative Christian conference
For @Mik and anyone else who like to believe that Trump supporters support Trump as a matter of policy rather than as a matter of personality, this crowd who booed Pence do not appear to fit this categorization. There is no reason to believe that any one who supports Trump's policy rather than Trump the person would boo Pence or call Pence a traitor.
Ax. I am calling bullshit on this and you drank the fake news kool aid. Someone heckled and there were some boos but overwhelming the crowd was polite and the cheers greatly exceeded the boos.
Prove me wrong or take it back.
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Actually, I don't quite the point about requiring an ID to vote either.
I know of no other country where you can vote without an ID. Over here, every adult must carry an ID with him or her basically whenever he or she leaves the house. It's needed for a million things. And of course you can't vote without it - how do you want to guarantee a fair election if you don't check IDs?
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@klaus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Actually, I don't quite the point about requiring an ID to vote either.
I know of no other country where you can vote without an ID. Over here, every adult must carry an ID with him or her basically whenever he or she leaves the house. It's needed for a million things. And of course you can't vote without it - how do you want to guarantee a fair election if you don't check IDs?
We have a myth in the US that people actually believe that you can function without ID. It’s BS that has quite a following.
