Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss
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Trump’s 2021 June 5 speech in North Carolina Republican Party State Convention:
Link to videoEven Fox News refused to air that speech.
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Article on GOP candidates struggle to escape Trump’s influence. Examples include George P. Bush (son of Jeb) who jettisoned the Bush brand to pursue Trump’s endorsement as he runs for the office of Attorney General in Texas; this despite Trump belittled his father and attacked his uncle.
Pence, despite his deep connection to the traditional pre-Trump GOP, also won’t be able to draw on that legacy for any of his future ambitions after four years with Trump.
Another case study of sort is Glenn Youngkin who is running for Virginia’s gubernatorial office. Youngkin ran a hardline conservative message and secured Trump’s endorsement, and now find that he cannot pivot to the center because his opponent will to let voter forget that Trump endorsed Youngkin.
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Article on GOP candidates struggle to escape Trump’s influence. Examples include George P. Bush (son of Jeb) who jettisoned the Bush brand to pursue Trump’s endorsement as he runs for the office of Attorney General in Texas; this despite Trump belittled his father and attacked his uncle.
Pence, despite his deep connection to the traditional pre-Trump GOP, also won’t be able to draw on that legacy for any of his future ambitions after four years with Trump.
Another case study of sort is Glenn Youngkin who is running for Virginia’s gubernatorial office. Youngkin ran a hardline conservative message and secured Trump’s endorsement, and now find that he cannot pivot to the center because his opponent will to let voter forget that Trump endorsed Youngkin.
We live in a divided country where a progressive agenda has low odds to be successful. Cleaving the GOP would be the best strategy to run the table…doesn’t look like it will happen.
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https://morningconsult.com/2021/06/09/trump-reinstated-democracy-polling/
“29% of GOP Voters Say It’s Likely Trump Will Be Reinstated as President This Year”
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https://morningconsult.com/2021/06/09/trump-reinstated-democracy-polling/
“29% of GOP Voters Say It’s Likely Trump Will Be Reinstated as President This Year”
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
https://morningconsult.com/2021/06/09/trump-reinstated-democracy-polling/
“29% of GOP Voters Say It’s Likely Trump Will Be Reinstated as President This Year”
Nah, it won't be until 2024...
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He appears to have hidden his agenda down the front of his suit pants.
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He appears to have hidden his agenda down the front of his suit pants.
@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
He appears to have hidden his agenda down the front of his suit pants.
Those were very fine pants, front and back.
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Trump tries to unseat Gov. Brian Kemp of Georgia. No taker.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/11/politics/trump-georgia-governor-primary-kemp/index.html
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At this early juncture pundits believe 2022 outcome is 50-50 odds for GOP majority and the GOP taking the House.
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
At this early juncture pundits believe 2022 outcome is 50-50 odds for GOP majority and the GOP taking the House.
I posted this yesterday. Am repeating it since I don't get no respect. "Here's an excerpt from a NYT opinion piece by Ross Douthat, yesterday: "But that note didn’t adequately convey just how despairing a lot of progressives have become, treating the hypothetical where Trump (or, for that matter, some other Republican nominee) actually succeeds in overturning an election defeat not just as a possibility but as a likely outcome in 2024, the destination to which we’re probably headed absent some unexpected change.
“This is where it’s going,” the press critic Jay Rosen of New York University tweeted recently, about a scenario in which state legislatures, the House and the Senate would simply hand the presidency to the G.O.P. nominee, “and there is presently nothing on the horizon that would stop it.”
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@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
At this early juncture pundits believe 2022 outcome is 50-50 odds for GOP majority and the GOP taking the House.
I posted this yesterday. Am repeating it since I don't get no respect. "Here's an excerpt from a NYT opinion piece by Ross Douthat, yesterday: "But that note didn’t adequately convey just how despairing a lot of progressives have become, treating the hypothetical where Trump (or, for that matter, some other Republican nominee) actually succeeds in overturning an election defeat not just as a possibility but as a likely outcome in 2024, the destination to which we’re probably headed absent some unexpected change.
“This is where it’s going,” the press critic Jay Rosen of New York University tweeted recently, about a scenario in which state legislatures, the House and the Senate would simply hand the presidency to the G.O.P. nominee, “and there is presently nothing on the horizon that would stop it.”
@catseye3 said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
At this early juncture pundits believe 2022 outcome is 50-50 odds for GOP majority and the GOP taking the House.
I posted this yesterday. Am repeating it since I don't get no respect. "Here's an excerpt from a NYT opinion piece by Ross Douthat, yesterday: "But that note didn’t adequately convey just how despairing a lot of progressives have become, treating the hypothetical where Trump (or, for that matter, some other Republican nominee) actually succeeds in overturning an election defeat not just as a possibility but as a likely outcome in 2024, the destination to which we’re probably headed absent some unexpected change.
“This is where it’s going,” the press critic Jay Rosen of New York University tweeted recently, about a scenario in which state legislatures, the House and the Senate would simply hand the presidency to the G.O.P. nominee, “and there is presently nothing on the horizon that would stop it.”
See, that's the problem. You're buying this crap about handing an election to a candidate(s). Almost every bill I've seen specifies valid signatures on mail in ballots and/or ID at the poling place (either early or on election day).
Now, how is this handing an election to the GOP?
Black, yellow, white and brown people are too stupid to sign their own name? They're too stupid to obtain a driver's license or state issued ID?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
Easy ...
Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.
"ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.
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@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
Easy ...
Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.
"ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
Easy ...
Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.
"ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.
Anyone can get an ID.
What's your point?
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@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
Easy ...
Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.
"ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
Easy ...
Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.
"ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.
ID is hard to get. Okay then. I believe you. For me it’s the opposite. I can’t function without ID.
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@catseye3 said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
At this early juncture pundits believe 2022 outcome is 50-50 odds for GOP majority and the GOP taking the House.
I posted this yesterday. Am repeating it since I don't get no respect. "Here's an excerpt from a NYT opinion piece by Ross Douthat, yesterday: "But that note didn’t adequately convey just how despairing a lot of progressives have become, treating the hypothetical where Trump (or, for that matter, some other Republican nominee) actually succeeds in overturning an election defeat not just as a possibility but as a likely outcome in 2024, the destination to which we’re probably headed absent some unexpected change.
“This is where it’s going,” the press critic Jay Rosen of New York University tweeted recently, about a scenario in which state legislatures, the House and the Senate would simply hand the presidency to the G.O.P. nominee, “and there is presently nothing on the horizon that would stop it.”
See, that's the problem. You're buying this crap about handing an election to a candidate(s). Almost every bill I've seen specifies valid signatures on mail in ballots and/or ID at the poling place (either early or on election day).
Now, how is this handing an election to the GOP?
Black, yellow, white and brown people are too stupid to sign their own name? They're too stupid to obtain a driver's license or state issued ID?
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@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
Easy ...
Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.
"ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.
ID is hard to get. Okay then. I believe you. For me it’s the opposite. I can’t function without ID.
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
Easy ...
Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.
"ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.
ID is hard to get. Okay then. I believe you. For me it’s the opposite. I can’t function without ID.
The Democrat party is not in the business of encouraging functional voters. They are in the business of encouraging Democrat voters.
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@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
Easy ...
Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.
"ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.
ID is hard to get. Okay then. I believe you. For me it’s the opposite. I can’t function without ID.
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
Easy ...
Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.
"ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.
ID is hard to get. Okay then. I believe you. For me it’s the opposite. I can’t function without ID.
I agree with this. In the US today, it is weird that a significant amount of people would not or cannot get an ID. If this were rural India, okay, there are some barriers. But in the US????
Of course there are some people, but I believe that for some reason or another (mental issues, etc.), they do not want to get an ID. But for everyone else, there really is not a excuse.
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@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.
Easy ...
Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.
"ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.
ID is hard to get. Okay then. I believe you. For me it’s the opposite. I can’t function without ID.
I agree with this. In the US today, it is weird that a significant amount of people would not or cannot get an ID. If this were rural India, okay, there are some barriers. But in the US????
Of course there are some people, but I believe that for some reason or another (mental issues, etc.), they do not want to get an ID. But for everyone else, there really is not a excuse.
@taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
But in the US????
There is nobody, except for a few extreme cases, who cannot easily get an ID.
Nobody.
Easily.
