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Anybody watch Joe tonight?

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #7

    What do guys think about the chances of that “$1.9 Billion” plan will get through the Senate?

    Will the Senate Republicans shut it down or reduce it sharply like they did previous Democratic COVID-19 economic stimulus proposals, say with Joe Manchin’s support? Or will more GOP support a big economic stimulus package knowing that they cannot avoid a vote (I doubt the Democrats will bring back that 60-vote filibuster rule, so the Democratic Senate leader can and will bring it up for a vote) and the Senate GOP hopes sending big checks to Americans will rehabilitate the GOP’s image somewhat after the Jan.6 Capitol incident?

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    • MikM Offline
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      Which is the worst possible reason for Congress to spend money.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Loki
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        I get the money for people who lost their jobs. Is the theory for the others that they will spend it and jump start the economy?

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        • L Loki

          I get the money for people who lost their jobs. Is the theory for the others that they will spend it and jump start the economy?

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          George K
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          #10

          @loki said in Anybody watch Joe tonight?:

          I get the money for people who lost their jobs. Is the theory for the others that they will spend it and jump start the economy?

          Somewhere I read that most of that money was spent on savings and paying off debt.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • 89th8 89th

            Enjoy!

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            Horace
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            #11

            @89th said in Anybody watch Joe tonight?:

            Enjoy!

            New iPhones

            Education is extremely important.

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            • L Loki

              I get the money for people who lost their jobs. Is the theory for the others that they will spend it and jump start the economy?

              MikM Offline
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              Mik
              wrote on last edited by Mik
              #12

              @loki said in Anybody watch Joe tonight?:

              I get the money for people who lost their jobs. Is the theory for the others that they will spend it and jump start the economy?

              Me too. I get it for those in trouble. I don't get throwing it out to everyone. There are an awful lot of people who did not lose their jobs and are not hurting. To increase the debt to send them money seems unwise.

              But it's not just that. He's going to cut poverty by 1/3. He's going to upgrade infrastructure, increase R&D investment and bring manufacturing back to America and he's going to make companies and the rich pay 'their fair share'.

              Like I said, his mouth is writing checks his office can't cash.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @89th said in Anybody watch Joe tonight?:

                Enjoy!

                New iPhones

                MikM Offline
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                #13

                @horace said in Anybody watch Joe tonight?:

                @89th said in Anybody watch Joe tonight?:

                Enjoy!

                New iPhones

                So it's all going to Horace.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • AxtremusA Offline
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                  #14

                  https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/14/stock-market-futures-open-to-close-news.html

                  Stock market falls after Biden proposed $1.9T stimulus.

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by Mik
                    #15

                    Actually I don't think it was the stimulus, but his narrative about how America is not about those living off investments and criticizing those who look to the market to see how we are doing. In other words, the productive.

                    Good job, Joe. Not even in office and already tanking the market through jitters.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      @loki said in Anybody watch Joe tonight?:

                      I get the money for people who lost their jobs. Is the theory for the others that they will spend it and jump start the economy?

                      Me too. I get it for those in trouble. I don't get throwing it out to everyone. There are an awful lot of people who did not lose their jobs and are not hurting. To increase the debt to send them money seems unwise.

                      But it's not just that. He's going to cut poverty by 1/3. He's going to upgrade infrastructure, increase R&D investment and bring manufacturing back to America and he's going to make companies and the rich pay 'their fair share'.

                      Like I said, his mouth is writing checks his office can't cash.

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                      taiwan_girl
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                      @mik said in Anybody watch Joe tonight?:

                      Like I said, his mouth is writing checks his office can't cash

                      So, talking like any other politician? 555

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/14/stock-market-futures-open-to-close-news.html

                        Stock market falls after Biden proposed $1.9T stimulus.

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                        @axtremus said in Anybody watch Joe tonight?:

                        https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/14/stock-market-futures-open-to-close-news.html

                        Stock market falls after Biden proposed $1.9T stimulus.

                        Oh no! We're back to Tuesday last week.

                        I kid, Ax. I know there's lots of theorizing going on about how the stimulus affects the market.

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          @Mik @jon-nyc AOC is now calling for 2K on top of the $600...

                          The Brad

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                          • MikM Offline
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                            I'm sure she is, but I doubt she holds much sway.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              I can't take her seriously if she asks for anything less than $100K.

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                                Rainman
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                                What the heck is going on here, huh?

                                I already budgeted for $2000 + $600 (Trump) and $1400 + $600 + $2000 (Biden) + $28,000 (AOC estimate).

                                And now Biden/AOC are going back on their word.

                                How can they stimulate the economy without giving at least $35,000 to every person?
                                Thanks, AOC! As long as you all are handing out money we don't have, why not pass out more?

                                If it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, right? Just keep it $1 beneath where it would wreck the economy, and we'll be fine.

                                It's called "economics," people!
                                Get With It. Get With the Program for goddsakes.

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                                • RainmanR Rainman

                                  What the heck is going on here, huh?

                                  I already budgeted for $2000 + $600 (Trump) and $1400 + $600 + $2000 (Biden) + $28,000 (AOC estimate).

                                  And now Biden/AOC are going back on their word.

                                  How can they stimulate the economy without giving at least $35,000 to every person?
                                  Thanks, AOC! As long as you all are handing out money we don't have, why not pass out more?

                                  If it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, right? Just keep it $1 beneath where it would wreck the economy, and we'll be fine.

                                  It's called "economics," people!
                                  Get With It. Get With the Program for goddsakes.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #22

                                  @rainman said in Anybody watch Joe tonight?:

                                  Biden/AOC are going back on their word

                                  Politicians lie?

                                  IMPEACH!!!

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • CopperC Offline
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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #23

                                    There are many ways to manage the economy

                                    Buttons, for example

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      The Biden presidency will be over very shortly if the virus is not defeated. It's much of what he ran on.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        The Biden presidency will be over very shortly if the virus is not defeated. It's much of what he ran on.

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                                        @mik said in Anybody watch Joe tonight?:

                                        The Biden presidency will be over very shortly if the virus is not defeated. It's much of what he ran on.

                                        Moderna CEO said it will be with us forever...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          #26

                                          And I think he is right. But ending the pandemic is the goal. That is what Biden has to do, and he's been shooting his mouth off about it for months.

                                          When you could drag him out of his basement, that is.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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