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  • X xenon
    14 Jan 2021, 00:01

    @horace said in Inside the Capitol Today:

    @doctor-phibes said in Inside the Capitol Today:

    I think these photos are really sad.

    The US has lost the right, if of course they ever had it, to preach to the rest of the world on the benefits of democracy, and 'The American Way'.

    All we had to do was enforce the law against an unarmed mob of doofuses. But we didn't. Because precedent. A precedent nobody on the left will own.

    I think you can accuse them of bad enforcement. But, there was enforcement. There were constant skirmishes between police and protesters last summer.

    If you're comparing this to CHAZ. Well, CHAZ-ing the capitol feels like it's in a different league.

    And I don't think CHAZ had anything to do in terms of practical policy re: Jan 6.

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    Horace
    wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 00:02 last edited by
    #15

    @xenon said in Inside the Capitol Today:

    @horace said in Inside the Capitol Today:

    @doctor-phibes said in Inside the Capitol Today:

    I think these photos are really sad.

    The US has lost the right, if of course they ever had it, to preach to the rest of the world on the benefits of democracy, and 'The American Way'.

    All we had to do was enforce the law against an unarmed mob of doofuses. But we didn't. Because precedent. A precedent nobody on the left will own.

    I think you can accuse them of bad enforcement. But, there was enforcement. There were constant skirmishes between police and protesters last summer.

    If you're comparing this to CHAZ. Well, CHAZ-ing the capitol feels like it's in a different league.

    And I don't think CHAZ had anything to do in terms of practical policy re: Jan 6.

    I think it had something to do with the officers taking selfies with the mob. I think it had something to do with officers not making serious attempts to restrain the mob.

    Education is extremely important.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 00:04 last edited by
      #16

      Those guys are facing suspension and maybe charges.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • J jon-nyc
        14 Jan 2021, 00:04

        Those guys are facing suspension and maybe charges.

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        Horace
        wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 00:06 last edited by
        #17

        @jon-nyc said in Inside the Capitol Today:

        Those guys are facing suspension and maybe charges.

        And there''s where the precedent is broken. We're actually enforcing the law.

        I fear the real precedent is that if you have a pop-culture-approved cause, you can riot with impunity, but if not, you can't.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 00:15 last edited by
          #18

          It would also help if you didn't have your Head of State egging them on.

          Yeah, I know, that's totally unfounded. He's not a cunt and his most ardent followers aren't useful idiots.

          Honestly - the woman near us crossing out Pence's name from her garden poster really had me thinking. What the fuck drugs is she on when she thinks Mike Pence is the bad guy here?

          I was only joking

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          • D Doctor Phibes
            14 Jan 2021, 00:15

            It would also help if you didn't have your Head of State egging them on.

            Yeah, I know, that's totally unfounded. He's not a cunt and his most ardent followers aren't useful idiots.

            Honestly - the woman near us crossing out Pence's name from her garden poster really had me thinking. What the fuck drugs is she on when she thinks Mike Pence is the bad guy here?

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 00:23 last edited by
            #19

            @doctor-phibes said in Inside the Capitol Today:

            What the fuck drugs is she on

            The real TDS.

            Please love yourself.

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            • D Doctor Phibes
              14 Jan 2021, 00:15

              It would also help if you didn't have your Head of State egging them on.

              Yeah, I know, that's totally unfounded. He's not a cunt and his most ardent followers aren't useful idiots.

              Honestly - the woman near us crossing out Pence's name from her garden poster really had me thinking. What the fuck drugs is she on when she thinks Mike Pence is the bad guy here?

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              Horace
              wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 00:23 last edited by
              #20

              @doctor-phibes said in Inside the Capitol Today:

              It would also help if you didn't have your Head of State egging them on.

              Yeah, I know, that's totally unfounded. He's not a cunt and his most ardent followers aren't useful idiots.

              Honestly - the woman near us crossing out Pence's name from her garden poster really had me thinking. What the fuck drugs is she on when she thinks Mike Pence is the bad guy here?

              There's tons of "BLM" or "No Hate Here" signs on storefronts and lawns around here. I wouldn't touch those examples of humanity with an 11 foot pole. My pole goes to 11.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • H Horace
                14 Jan 2021, 00:06

                @jon-nyc said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                Those guys are facing suspension and maybe charges.

                And there''s where the precedent is broken. We're actually enforcing the law.

                I fear the real precedent is that if you have a pop-culture-approved cause, you can riot with impunity, but if not, you can't.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 01:15 last edited by
                #21

                @horace I doubt many municipalities are going to follow in Portland or Seattle’s lead.

                As for the destruction of federal property last summer, Trump and Barr were pretty adamant that they’d be prosecuting to the limits of the law. While I haven’t seen any follow up, I assume they did.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • J jon-nyc
                  14 Jan 2021, 01:15

                  @horace I doubt many municipalities are going to follow in Portland or Seattle’s lead.

                  As for the destruction of federal property last summer, Trump and Barr were pretty adamant that they’d be prosecuting to the limits of the law. While I haven’t seen any follow up, I assume they did.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 01:34 last edited by
                  #22

                  @jon-nyc said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                  @horace I doubt many municipalities are going to follow in Portland or Seattle’s lead.

                  No slippery slope?

                  As for the destruction of federal property last summer, Trump and Barr were pretty adamant that they’d be prosecuting to the limits of the law. While I haven’t seen any follow up, I assume they did.

                  No slippery slope?

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • A Aqua Letifer
                    14 Jan 2021, 00:23

                    @doctor-phibes said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                    What the fuck drugs is she on

                    The real TDS.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 03:09 last edited by
                    #23

                    @aqua-letifer said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                    @doctor-phibes said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                    What the fuck drugs is she on

                    The real TDS.

                    Yup. Trump Deification Syndrome

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                    • T taiwan_girl
                      14 Jan 2021, 03:09

                      @aqua-letifer said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                      What the fuck drugs is she on

                      The real TDS.

                      Yup. Trump Deification Syndrome

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 03:10 last edited by
                      #24

                      @taiwan_girl said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                      @aqua-letifer said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                      What the fuck drugs is she on

                      The real TDS.

                      Yup. Trump Deification Syndrome

                      That's good!

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 12:26 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #25

                        Trump Defecation Syndrome - Belief in his bullshit.

                        I was only joking

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                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          14 Jan 2021, 12:26

                          Trump Defecation Syndrome - Belief in his bullshit.

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                          Loki
                          wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 12:35 last edited by Loki
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                          • H Horace
                            13 Jan 2021, 23:52

                            If it had ever come to that in a BLM riot, people would have been screaming fascism. Now people are rejoicing at the restoration of law and order. Enjoy.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 13:24 last edited by
                            #27

                            @horace said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                            If it had ever come to that in a BLM riot, people would have been screaming fascism. Now people are rejoicing at the restoration of law and order. Enjoy.

                            Amen.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 13:39 last edited by
                              #28

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • J Jolly
                                14 Jan 2021, 13:24

                                @horace said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                                If it had ever come to that in a BLM riot, people would have been screaming fascism. Now people are rejoicing at the restoration of law and order. Enjoy.

                                Amen.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 14:13 last edited by
                                #29

                                Stormtroopers, eh?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • G George K
                                  14 Jan 2021, 14:13

                                  Stormtroopers, eh?

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                                  Loki
                                  wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 14:23 last edited by
                                  #30

                                  @george-k said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                                  Stormtroopers, eh?

                                  I support a huge presence. It’s a consequence on what we are now learning was a premeditated attack on our Capitol.

                                  Also now the fringe groups have earned the right to be taken at their word.

                                  That’s just the way it is.

                                  As it happens I will coincidentally be in DC on Inauguration Day. May be the safest place in the US.

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                                  • L Loki
                                    14 Jan 2021, 14:23

                                    @george-k said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                                    Stormtroopers, eh?

                                    I support a huge presence. It’s a consequence on what we are now learning was a premeditated attack on our Capitol.

                                    Also now the fringe groups have earned the right to be taken at their word.

                                    That’s just the way it is.

                                    As it happens I will coincidentally be in DC on Inauguration Day. May be the safest place in the US.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 14:24 last edited by
                                    #31

                                    @loki said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                                    As it happens I will coincidentally be in DC on Inauguration Day.

                                    Dear God what for?? 😄 Are you going to be close to the stuff downtown?

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • L Loki
                                      14 Jan 2021, 14:23

                                      @george-k said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                                      Stormtroopers, eh?

                                      I support a huge presence. It’s a consequence on what we are now learning was a premeditated attack on our Capitol.

                                      Also now the fringe groups have earned the right to be taken at their word.

                                      That’s just the way it is.

                                      As it happens I will coincidentally be in DC on Inauguration Day. May be the safest place in the US.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 14:44 last edited by
                                      #32

                                      @loki I don’t disagree at all. I was referencing The Speaker’s comments about federal troops in Portland.

                                      Stormtroopers for thee but not for me.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • L Loki
                                        14 Jan 2021, 14:23

                                        @george-k said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                                        Stormtroopers, eh?

                                        I support a huge presence. It’s a consequence on what we are now learning was a premeditated attack on our Capitol.

                                        Also now the fringe groups have earned the right to be taken at their word.

                                        That’s just the way it is.

                                        As it happens I will coincidentally be in DC on Inauguration Day. May be the safest place in the US.

                                        M Away
                                        M Away
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 14:47 last edited by
                                        #33

                                        @loki said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                                        @george-k said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                                        Stormtroopers, eh?

                                        I support a huge presence. It’s a consequence on what we are now learning was a premeditated attack on our Capitol.

                                        Also now the fringe groups have earned the right to be taken at their word.

                                        That’s just the way it is.

                                        As it happens I will coincidentally be in DC on Inauguration Day. May be the safest place in the US.

                                        My daughter and her roommate had a trip to DC planned for the inauguration. They have reconsidered.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • G George K
                                          14 Jan 2021, 14:44

                                          @loki I don’t disagree at all. I was referencing The Speaker’s comments about federal troops in Portland.

                                          Stormtroopers for thee but not for me.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
                                          wrote on 14 Jan 2021, 14:49 last edited by
                                          #34

                                          @george-k said in Inside the Capitol Today:

                                          @loki I don’t disagree at all. I was referencing The Speaker’s comments about federal troops in Portland.

                                          Stormtroopers for thee but not for me.

                                          Portland is not where a national election was delayed due to terrorism.

                                          Please love yourself.

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