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  • MikM Mik

    @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

    @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

    We are a vindictive country.

    When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

    You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

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    Aqua Letifer
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    #12

    @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

    @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

    @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

    We are a vindictive country.

    When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

    You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

    Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

    The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

    I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

    Please love yourself.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

      @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

      @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

      We are a vindictive country.

      When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

      You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

      Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

      The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

      I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

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      taiwan_girl
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      #13

      @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

      @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

      @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

      @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

      We are a vindictive country.

      When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

      You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

      Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

      The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

      I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

      ☝🏻

      This. I agree 100%. It gets back to some of the other foreign threads. Not all crimes are equal, even if on the surface they are. Right or wrong, some crimes are more equal than others

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

        @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

        @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

        @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

        We are a vindictive country.

        When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

        You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

        Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

        The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

        I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

        ☝🏻

        This. I agree 100%. It gets back to some of the other foreign threads. Not all crimes are equal, even if on the surface they are. Right or wrong, some crimes are more equal than others

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        Loki
        wrote on last edited by Loki
        #14

        @taiwan_girl said in NYC dumps Trump:

        @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

        @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

        @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

        @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

        We are a vindictive country.

        When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

        You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

        Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

        The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

        I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

        ☝🏻

        This. I agree 100%. It gets back to some of the other foreign threads. Not all crimes are equal, even if on the surface they are. Right or wrong, some crimes are more equal than others

        Agree but you called them both crimes and I don’t think that was what was communicated on the BLM protests.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

          @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

          @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

          We are a vindictive country.

          When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

          You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

          Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

          The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

          I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

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          Copper
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          #15

          @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

          @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

          @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

          @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

          We are a vindictive country.

          When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

          You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

          Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

          The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

          I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

          No, it was more like people didn't care (out loud) because of skin color

          Part of the way you can tell that people care is the invasion last Wednesday.

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            Horace
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            Yes, of course, the whole culture was terrified of expressing any outrage over BLM riots. Expressing, that is. They couldn't help but feel. But of course everybody is a coward sometimes about saying what they feel. We all just negotiate prices.

            Education is extremely important.

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              jon-nyc
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              #17

              Most of us here didn’t have a problem.

              You were warned.

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                Doctor Phibes
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                #18

                I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage. There were plenty of people here in the liberal stronghold of Massachusetts who said they didn't approve. I imagine some of the language used in Arkansas and Alabama, for example, may have been even stronger.

                I was only joking

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                  Copper
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                  #19

                  I'm not going to lose my job if I criticize blm.

                  Bill Belichick might.

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    #20

                    I'm not going to lose my job if I say the New England Patriots are a bunch of cheaters.

                    Bill Belichick might.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage. There were plenty of people here in the liberal stronghold of Massachusetts who said they didn't approve. I imagine some of the language used in Arkansas and Alabama, for example, may have been even stronger.

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                      Horace
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                      #21

                      @doctor-phibes said in NYC dumps Trump:

                      I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage.

                      Really?

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @doctor-phibes said in NYC dumps Trump:

                        I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage.

                        Really?

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #22

                        @horace said in NYC dumps Trump:

                        @doctor-phibes said in NYC dumps Trump:

                        I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage.

                        Really?

                        Put it this way, there was plenty of outrage being expressed by the people I work with.

                        They didn't phone up random black people and say it. Like anything controversial, you had to be a bit careful of who you spoke to.

                        I once upset a big group of colleagues in Boston who it turns out are devout Roman Catholics when I made an ill-considered remark about the morning-after pill.

                        I was only joking

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                          Horace
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                          #23

                          Well, it has been said more than once that Boston is a hotbed of racism. I have never lived in such a hotbed myself.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            #24

                            Not sure about the racism. I haven't heard much of that around here. However, they sure didn't like my remarks about the morning after pill.

                            Left-footers, one and all.

                            I was only joking

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                              LuFins Dad
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                              Trump resigned from the Trump organization in 2016. NYC is canceling contracts because of alleged criminal activity from an ex-employee? Or are they alleging that Eric or Donald Jr. are guilty of criminal behavior?

                              I'd love to be a Trump attorney for this case...

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                Trump resigned from the Trump organization in 2016. NYC is canceling contracts because of alleged criminal activity from an ex-employee? Or are they alleging that Eric or Donald Jr. are guilty of criminal behavior?

                                I'd love to be a Trump attorney for this case...

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                                Loki
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                                @lufins-dad said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                Trump resigned from the Trump organization in 2016. NYC is canceling contracts because of alleged criminal activity from an ex-employee? Or are they alleging that Eric or Donald Jr. are guilty of criminal behavior?

                                I'd love to be a Trump attorney for this case...

                                They knew they did this it would not survive contact with reality.

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  Trump resigned from the Trump organization in 2016. NYC is canceling contracts because of alleged criminal activity from an ex-employee? Or are they alleging that Eric or Donald Jr. are guilty of criminal behavior?

                                  I'd love to be a Trump attorney for this case...

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                                  Axtremus
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                                  @lufins-dad said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                  Trump resigned from the Trump organization in 2016. NYC is canceling contracts because of alleged criminal activity from an ex-employee?

                                  Donald J. Trump is still the sole and principal owner of the Trump Organization. You should know better than to equate a principal owner to an ex-employee.

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                                    Copper
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                                    #28

                                    Elijah "Pumpsie" Green was the first black player on the Boston Red Sox, the last Major League Baseball team to integrate.

                                    I remember Pumpsie Green as a second baseman, I was 5 years-old. I don't remember anything about him and integration.

                                    Bill Russell played for the Celtics 56-69, He won 11 NBA championships (really 11), 8 of them in a row. He always talked about Boston being racist. It probably was, but at that time he would have heard the talk anywhere.

                                    The school bussing in the 70's insured Boston's reputation.

                                    Bussing was bad for everyone, it still is. I had a front row seat for it. It was just plain stupid.

                                    Is Boston racist? Maybe, but it isn't just white/black, it's different. The Irish are very aware that they are Irish, that is also true for Italians, Germans, Jewish, Brahmin, Limey or whatever. The city was always run by democrats who didn't used to be far left. But now they have become woke.

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                                    • CopperC Copper

                                      Elijah "Pumpsie" Green was the first black player on the Boston Red Sox, the last Major League Baseball team to integrate.

                                      I remember Pumpsie Green as a second baseman, I was 5 years-old. I don't remember anything about him and integration.

                                      Bill Russell played for the Celtics 56-69, He won 11 NBA championships (really 11), 8 of them in a row. He always talked about Boston being racist. It probably was, but at that time he would have heard the talk anywhere.

                                      The school bussing in the 70's insured Boston's reputation.

                                      Bussing was bad for everyone, it still is. I had a front row seat for it. It was just plain stupid.

                                      Is Boston racist? Maybe, but it isn't just white/black, it's different. The Irish are very aware that they are Irish, that is also true for Italians, Germans, Jewish, Brahmin, Limey or whatever. The city was always run by democrats who didn't used to be far left. But now they have become woke.

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      @copper said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                      I had a front row seat for it. It was just plain stupid.

                                      We’re you one of the kids bussed to a school far away?

                                      You were warned.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @copper said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                        I had a front row seat for it. It was just plain stupid.

                                        We’re you one of the kids bussed to a school far away?

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                                        Copper
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                                        #30

                                        @jon-nyc said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                        @copper said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                        I had a front row seat for it. It was just plain stupid.

                                        We’re you one of the kids bussed to a school far away?

                                        No, my father was a high school headmaster in Boston. He was making Walter Cronkite appearances at the time to discuss the bussing.

                                        He sent his kids to private schools, of course. They were cheap back then. I think $100 covered 6 of us in the same grammar school. We had nuns who worked for food and shelter.

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                                          Interesting.

                                          Even today the parochial schools are a lot cheaper than similar private schools.

                                          You were warned.

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