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  • M Mik
    13 Jan 2021, 15:16

    We are a vindictive country.

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 15:38 last edited by
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    @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

    We are a vindictive country.

    When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

    Please love yourself.

    M M 2 Replies Last reply 13 Jan 2021, 16:11
    • A Aqua Letifer
      13 Jan 2021, 15:38

      @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

      We are a vindictive country.

      When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

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      mark
      wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 16:11 last edited by
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      @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

      @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

      We are a vindictive country.

      When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

      Agreed. And we should.

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      • M mark
        13 Jan 2021, 16:11

        @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

        @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

        We are a vindictive country.

        When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

        Agreed. And we should.

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        Loki
        wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 16:15 last edited by
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        @mark said in NYC dumps Trump:

        @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

        @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

        We are a vindictive country.

        When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

        Agreed. And we should.

        That’s right. But it’s logical to not go the other extreme and not care about lessor violence and in many cases encourage it.

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        • A Aqua Letifer
          13 Jan 2021, 15:38

          @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

          We are a vindictive country.

          When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

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          Mik
          wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 16:19 last edited by
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          @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

          @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

          We are a vindictive country.

          When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

          You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • M Mik
            13 Jan 2021, 16:19

            @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

            @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

            We are a vindictive country.

            When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

            You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 16:31 last edited by
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            @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

            @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

            @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

            We are a vindictive country.

            When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

            You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

            Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

            The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

            I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

            Please love yourself.

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            • A Aqua Letifer
              13 Jan 2021, 16:31

              @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

              @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

              @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

              We are a vindictive country.

              When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

              You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

              Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

              The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

              I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 16:39 last edited by
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              @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

              @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

              @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

              @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

              We are a vindictive country.

              When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

              You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

              Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

              The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

              I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

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              This. I agree 100%. It gets back to some of the other foreign threads. Not all crimes are equal, even if on the surface they are. Right or wrong, some crimes are more equal than others

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                13 Jan 2021, 16:39

                @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                We are a vindictive country.

                When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

                You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

                Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

                The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

                I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

                ☝🏻

                This. I agree 100%. It gets back to some of the other foreign threads. Not all crimes are equal, even if on the surface they are. Right or wrong, some crimes are more equal than others

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                Loki
                wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 17:01 last edited by Loki
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                @taiwan_girl said in NYC dumps Trump:

                @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                We are a vindictive country.

                When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

                You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

                Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

                The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

                I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

                ☝🏻

                This. I agree 100%. It gets back to some of the other foreign threads. Not all crimes are equal, even if on the surface they are. Right or wrong, some crimes are more equal than others

                Agree but you called them both crimes and I don’t think that was what was communicated on the BLM protests.

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                • A Aqua Letifer
                  13 Jan 2021, 16:31

                  @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                  @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                  @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                  We are a vindictive country.

                  When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

                  You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

                  Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

                  The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

                  I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 17:17 last edited by Copper
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                  @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                  @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                  @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                  @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                  We are a vindictive country.

                  When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

                  You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

                  Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

                  The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

                  I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

                  No, it was more like people didn't care (out loud) because of skin color

                  Part of the way you can tell that people care is the invasion last Wednesday.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 17:55 last edited by
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                    Yes, of course, the whole culture was terrified of expressing any outrage over BLM riots. Expressing, that is. They couldn't help but feel. But of course everybody is a coward sometimes about saying what they feel. We all just negotiate prices.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 17:56 last edited by
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                      Most of us here didn’t have a problem.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 18:02 last edited by
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                        I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage. There were plenty of people here in the liberal stronghold of Massachusetts who said they didn't approve. I imagine some of the language used in Arkansas and Alabama, for example, may have been even stronger.

                        I was only joking

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 18:02 last edited by
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                          I'm not going to lose my job if I criticize blm.

                          Bill Belichick might.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 18:04 last edited by
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                            I'm not going to lose my job if I say the New England Patriots are a bunch of cheaters.

                            Bill Belichick might.

                            I was only joking

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                            • D Doctor Phibes
                              13 Jan 2021, 18:02

                              I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage. There were plenty of people here in the liberal stronghold of Massachusetts who said they didn't approve. I imagine some of the language used in Arkansas and Alabama, for example, may have been even stronger.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 18:06 last edited by
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                              @doctor-phibes said in NYC dumps Trump:

                              I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage.

                              Really?

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • H Horace
                                13 Jan 2021, 18:06

                                @doctor-phibes said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage.

                                Really?

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 18:10 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                                @horace said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                @doctor-phibes said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage.

                                Really?

                                Put it this way, there was plenty of outrage being expressed by the people I work with.

                                They didn't phone up random black people and say it. Like anything controversial, you had to be a bit careful of who you spoke to.

                                I once upset a big group of colleagues in Boston who it turns out are devout Roman Catholics when I made an ill-considered remark about the morning-after pill.

                                I was only joking

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 18:12 last edited by
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                                  Well, it has been said more than once that Boston is a hotbed of racism. I have never lived in such a hotbed myself.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 18:22 last edited by
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                                    Not sure about the racism. I haven't heard much of that around here. However, they sure didn't like my remarks about the morning after pill.

                                    Left-footers, one and all.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 18:53 last edited by
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                                      Trump resigned from the Trump organization in 2016. NYC is canceling contracts because of alleged criminal activity from an ex-employee? Or are they alleging that Eric or Donald Jr. are guilty of criminal behavior?

                                      I'd love to be a Trump attorney for this case...

                                      The Brad

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                                      • L LuFins Dad
                                        13 Jan 2021, 18:53

                                        Trump resigned from the Trump organization in 2016. NYC is canceling contracts because of alleged criminal activity from an ex-employee? Or are they alleging that Eric or Donald Jr. are guilty of criminal behavior?

                                        I'd love to be a Trump attorney for this case...

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                                        Loki
                                        wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 19:24 last edited by
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                                        @lufins-dad said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                        Trump resigned from the Trump organization in 2016. NYC is canceling contracts because of alleged criminal activity from an ex-employee? Or are they alleging that Eric or Donald Jr. are guilty of criminal behavior?

                                        I'd love to be a Trump attorney for this case...

                                        They knew they did this it would not survive contact with reality.

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                                        • L LuFins Dad
                                          13 Jan 2021, 18:53

                                          Trump resigned from the Trump organization in 2016. NYC is canceling contracts because of alleged criminal activity from an ex-employee? Or are they alleging that Eric or Donald Jr. are guilty of criminal behavior?

                                          I'd love to be a Trump attorney for this case...

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 13 Jan 2021, 19:36 last edited by
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                                          @lufins-dad said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                          Trump resigned from the Trump organization in 2016. NYC is canceling contracts because of alleged criminal activity from an ex-employee?

                                          Donald J. Trump is still the sole and principal owner of the Trump Organization. You should know better than to equate a principal owner to an ex-employee.

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