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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #4

    Sorry. Future presidents need to know that can’t just go down the path of launching assaults on democracy if they lose. Figurative and literal.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      #5

      What's with all the focus on criminality? Geez, you'd think there was no such thing as non-criminal moral assholery.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Sorry. Future presidents need to know that can’t just go down the path of launching assaults on democracy if they lose. Figurative and literal.

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        Loki
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        #6

        @jon-nyc said in NYC dumps Trump:

        Sorry. Future presidents need to know that can’t just go down the path of launching assaults on democracy if they lose. Figurative and literal.

        Future contracts is one thing. Early termination is another. Termination for convenience would be super chilling. Let’s see the contract language and let’s see the rationale for breaking the contract.

        Emotion doesn’t matter.

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          Copper
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          #7

          Everyone wants to just invent new punishments because Trump.

          That might not be the best way to determine sentencing.

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          • MikM Mik

            We are a vindictive country.

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            Aqua Letifer
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            #8

            @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

            We are a vindictive country.

            When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

              We are a vindictive country.

              When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

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              mark
              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

              @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

              We are a vindictive country.

              When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

              Agreed. And we should.

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              • markM mark

                @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                We are a vindictive country.

                When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

                Agreed. And we should.

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                Loki
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                #10

                @mark said in NYC dumps Trump:

                @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                We are a vindictive country.

                When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

                Agreed. And we should.

                That’s right. But it’s logical to not go the other extreme and not care about lessor violence and in many cases encourage it.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                  We are a vindictive country.

                  When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

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                  Mik
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                  #11

                  @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                  @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                  We are a vindictive country.

                  When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

                  You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                    @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                    We are a vindictive country.

                    When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

                    You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    #12

                    @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                    @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                    @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                    We are a vindictive country.

                    When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

                    You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

                    Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

                    The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

                    I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                      @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                      @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                      We are a vindictive country.

                      When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

                      You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

                      Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

                      The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

                      I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

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                      taiwan_girlT Online
                      taiwan_girl
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                      #13

                      @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                      @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                      @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                      @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                      We are a vindictive country.

                      When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

                      You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

                      Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

                      The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

                      I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

                      ☝🏻

                      This. I agree 100%. It gets back to some of the other foreign threads. Not all crimes are equal, even if on the surface they are. Right or wrong, some crimes are more equal than others

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                        @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                        @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                        @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                        We are a vindictive country.

                        When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

                        You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

                        Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

                        The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

                        I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

                        ☝🏻

                        This. I agree 100%. It gets back to some of the other foreign threads. Not all crimes are equal, even if on the surface they are. Right or wrong, some crimes are more equal than others

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                        Loki
                        wrote on last edited by Loki
                        #14

                        @taiwan_girl said in NYC dumps Trump:

                        @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                        @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                        @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                        @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                        We are a vindictive country.

                        When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

                        You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

                        Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

                        The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

                        I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

                        ☝🏻

                        This. I agree 100%. It gets back to some of the other foreign threads. Not all crimes are equal, even if on the surface they are. Right or wrong, some crimes are more equal than others

                        Agree but you called them both crimes and I don’t think that was what was communicated on the BLM protests.

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                          @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                          @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                          We are a vindictive country.

                          When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

                          You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

                          Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

                          The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

                          I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

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                          Copper
                          wrote on last edited by Copper
                          #15

                          @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                          @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                          @aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

                          @mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

                          We are a vindictive country.

                          When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

                          You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

                          Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

                          The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

                          I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

                          No, it was more like people didn't care (out loud) because of skin color

                          Part of the way you can tell that people care is the invasion last Wednesday.

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                            Horace
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                            Yes, of course, the whole culture was terrified of expressing any outrage over BLM riots. Expressing, that is. They couldn't help but feel. But of course everybody is a coward sometimes about saying what they feel. We all just negotiate prices.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #17

                              Most of us here didn’t have a problem.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage. There were plenty of people here in the liberal stronghold of Massachusetts who said they didn't approve. I imagine some of the language used in Arkansas and Alabama, for example, may have been even stronger.

                                I was only joking

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                                  Copper
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                                  I'm not going to lose my job if I criticize blm.

                                  Bill Belichick might.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    I'm not going to lose my job if I say the New England Patriots are a bunch of cheaters.

                                    Bill Belichick might.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage. There were plenty of people here in the liberal stronghold of Massachusetts who said they didn't approve. I imagine some of the language used in Arkansas and Alabama, for example, may have been even stronger.

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                                      Horace
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                                      @doctor-phibes said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                      I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage.

                                      Really?

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @doctor-phibes said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                        I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage.

                                        Really?

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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        #22

                                        @horace said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                        @doctor-phibes said in NYC dumps Trump:

                                        I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage.

                                        Really?

                                        Put it this way, there was plenty of outrage being expressed by the people I work with.

                                        They didn't phone up random black people and say it. Like anything controversial, you had to be a bit careful of who you spoke to.

                                        I once upset a big group of colleagues in Boston who it turns out are devout Roman Catholics when I made an ill-considered remark about the morning-after pill.

                                        I was only joking

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                                          Horace
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                                          Well, it has been said more than once that Boston is a hotbed of racism. I have never lived in such a hotbed myself.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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