NYC dumps Trump

[Loki]

Will be interesting to see the language for early termination on a contract based on criminal activity. Makes total sense but proving criminality will be the task at hand. There is Supreme Court precedence to say no.

Is this just a political move?

[Mik]

We are a vindictive country.

[jon-nyc]

Sorry. Future presidents need to know that can’t just go down the path of launching assaults on democracy if they lose. Figurative and literal.

[Catseye3]

What's with all the focus on criminality? Geez, you'd think there was no such thing as non-criminal moral assholery.

[Loki]

@jon-nyc said in NYC dumps Trump:

Sorry. Future presidents need to know that can’t just go down the path of launching assaults on democracy if they lose. Figurative and literal.

Future contracts is one thing. Early termination is another. Termination for convenience would be super chilling. Let’s see the contract language and let’s see the rationale for breaking the contract.

Emotion doesn’t matter.

[Copper]

Everyone wants to just invent new punishments because Trump.

That might not be the best way to determine sentencing.

[Aqua Letifer]

@mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

We are a vindictive country.

When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

[mark]

@aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

@mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

We are a vindictive country.

When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

Agreed. And we should.

[Loki]

@mark said in NYC dumps Trump:

@aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

@mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

We are a vindictive country.

When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

Agreed. And we should.

That’s right. But it’s logical to not go the other extreme and not care about lessor violence and in many cases encourage it.

[Mik]

@aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

@mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

We are a vindictive country.

When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

[Aqua Letifer]

@mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

@aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

@mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

We are a vindictive country.

When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

[taiwan_girl]

@aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

@mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

@aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

@mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

We are a vindictive country.

When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

This. I agree 100%. It gets back to some of the other foreign threads. Not all crimes are equal, even if on the surface they are. Right or wrong, some crimes are more equal than others

[Loki]

@taiwan_girl said in NYC dumps Trump:

@aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

@mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

@aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

@mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

We are a vindictive country.

When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

This. I agree 100%. It gets back to some of the other foreign threads. Not all crimes are equal, even if on the surface they are. Right or wrong, some crimes are more equal than others

Agree but you called them both crimes and I don’t think that was what was communicated on the BLM protests.

[Copper]

@aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

@mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

@aqua-letifer said in NYC dumps Trump:

@mik said in NYC dumps Trump:

We are a vindictive country.

When its symbols are attacked. That's why far more outrage over this than the BLM fires. That's why the heavy response after 9/11. We go full rage mode when our symbols are attacked.

You don't think the BLM riots attacked our symbols?

Why so few people were outraged, let alone cared, about entire businesses being burned to the ground, is because in the eyes of most Americans, no, no they didn't.

The Capitol the most obvious American symbol there is, and they were conducting a vote inside. That's going to hit home a lot harder than ten Papa John's getting torched.

I'm not placing a value judgment on that, I'm just saying that that's obviously how most people see it.

No, it was more like people didn't care (out loud) because of skin color

Part of the way you can tell that people care is the invasion last Wednesday.

[Horace]

Yes, of course, the whole culture was terrified of expressing any outrage over BLM riots. Expressing, that is. They couldn't help but feel. But of course everybody is a coward sometimes about saying what they feel. We all just negotiate prices.

[jon-nyc]

Most of us here didn’t have a problem.

[Doctor Phibes]

I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage. There were plenty of people here in the liberal stronghold of Massachusetts who said they didn't approve. I imagine some of the language used in Arkansas and Alabama, for example, may have been even stronger.

[Copper]

I'm not going to lose my job if I criticize blm.

Bill Belichick might.

[Doctor Phibes]

I'm not going to lose my job if I say the New England Patriots are a bunch of cheaters.

Bill Belichick might.

[Horace]

@doctor-phibes said in NYC dumps Trump:

I don't know people who went in fear of expressing outrage.

Really?