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  • HoraceH Horace

    I think there were plenty of us who didn't anticipate that the protests would turn violent. I think Trump was one of them.

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    @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

    I think there were plenty of us who didn't anticipate that the protests would turn violent. I think Trump was one of them.

    On the first part, I agree. I don't think Thomas's wife meant support for the violence component. As for President Trump, I suspect his feelings probably are more related to the negative public opinion than the outright assault on the Capitol.

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      I find it hard to imagine Trump envisioned anything less than that, but with a different result.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

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          @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

          You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

          General, he's asked them to resign. Hardesty, Dieffenbach, Riley and yourself.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

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            @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

            You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

            Of course not. But his behavior once the violence started is definitely worth studying.

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              @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

              You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

              Of course not. But his behavior once the violence started is definitely worth studying.

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              @loki said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

              @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

              You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

              Of course not. But his behavior once the violence started is definitely worth studying.

              What would be your description of his behavior since the violence started? I recall an unequivocal speech the night of that day, was there something else to pay attention to?

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @loki said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

                Of course not. But his behavior once the violence started is definitely worth studying.

                What would be your description of his behavior since the violence started? I recall an unequivocal speech the night of that day, was there something else to pay attention to?

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                @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                @loki said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

                Of course not. But his behavior once the violence started is definitely worth studying.

                What would be your description of his behavior since the violence started? I recall an unequivocal speech the night of that day, was there something else to pay attention to?

                The delay in the call for the national guard and Biden getting on the air before him.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

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                  @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                  You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

                  Why else would he have encouraged this to happen? What would be the point?

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                    You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

                    Why else would he have encouraged this to happen? What would be the point?

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                    @mik said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                    @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                    You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

                    Why else would he have encouraged this to happen? What would be the point?

                    I know he encouraged the march, but did he encourage illegal encroachment into the Capitol?

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      No, he did not.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Well if we're going to deal harshly with those who encourage peaceful protests that turn violent, we're going to have a heck of a lot of guilty people who will never own their guilt. Trump is welcome to the club, shared by a lot of his haters.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          @loki said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                          @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                          You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

                          Of course not. But his behavior once the violence started is definitely worth studying.

                          What would be your description of his behavior since the violence started? I recall an unequivocal speech the night of that day, was there something else to pay attention to?

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                          @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                          unequivocal

                          You spelled equivocal wrong.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @mik said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                            @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                            You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

                            Why else would he have encouraged this to happen? What would be the point?

                            I know he encouraged the march, but did he encourage illegal encroachment into the Capitol?

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                            @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                            @mik said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                            @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                            You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

                            Why else would he have encouraged this to happen? What would be the point?

                            I know he encouraged the march, but did he encourage illegal encroachment into the Capitol?

                            No, he did not, but he encouraged them to march to the Capitol. Again, what was he expecting? It is difficult to know what was in his mind.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                              @mik said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                              @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                              You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

                              Why else would he have encouraged this to happen? What would be the point?

                              I know he encouraged the march, but did he encourage illegal encroachment into the Capitol?

                              No, he did not, but he encouraged them to march to the Capitol. Again, what was he expecting? It is difficult to know what was in his mind.

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                              @mik

                              My hunch is that it never crossed Trump's mind that his cheer leading rhetoric could motivate elements in the crowd to ignite a riot on the Capitol. Yet another aspect of what makes Trump come across as a loose cannon to people who find his enthusiastic boosterism repugnant.

                              Elbows up!

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                                @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                                unequivocal

                                You spelled equivocal wrong.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                                @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                                unequivocal

                                You spelled equivocal wrong.

                                yeah but fair and objective to you is hatred for all things Trump. I recall he was unequivocal about the condemnation of anybody breaking the law. Feel free to post a transcript if you believe it proves me wrong. I am going by memory having listened to it once.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  McCarthy:

                                  https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/03/the-smearing-of-clarence-thomas/

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Are justices to recuse themselves because they have friends or family that hold unpopular opinions? Show me what Justice Thomas has DONE that would justify recusal. Near as I can see, all his wife did was express an opinion.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Are justices to recuse themselves because they have friends or family that hold unpopular opinions? Show me what Justice Thomas has DONE that would justify recusal. Near as I can see, all his wife did was express an opinion.

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                                      @Mik here's the GKSR you were looking for:

                                      "Justice Elena Kagan did not recuse herself from the Obamacare case, providing the critical vote to uphold it despite having served as President Obama’s solicitor general when the administration was formulating the legal strategy to defend the Affordable Care Act. (See Ed Whelan’s analysis, here.)

                                      Justice Stephen Breyer has been aptly described as the primary architect of the federal sentencing guidelines. He steered them through Congress in 1984 as the Senate Judiciary Committee’s chief counsel before serving, as a federal appeals court judge, on the Sentencing Commission that created the guidelines. Yet, after being appointed to the high court by President Clinton, Breyer declined to recuse himself when the Supreme Court weighed the constitutionality of the guidelines. Indeed, he wrote a 5-4 majority opinion in 2005 that sustained the guidelines scheme, though declaring it advisory rather than mandatory."

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        The point of recusing oneself is to ensure that justice is seen to be done, and that there is no question of personal bias.

                                        If you honestly don't believe this situation smells a bit fishy, then I don't know what to say. Maybe get some olfactory testing done?

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          The point of recusing oneself is to ensure that justice is seen to be done, and that there is no question of personal bias.

                                          If you honestly don't believe this situation smells a bit fishy, then I don't know what to say. Maybe get some olfactory testing done?

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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                                          The point of recusing oneself is to ensure that justice is seen to be done, and that there is no question of personal bias.

                                          See the GKSR comment above. When you have the lawyer who framed Obamacare sitting on the Supreme Court and cast the deciding vote, no one blinked an eye.

                                          If you honestly don't believe this situation smells a bit fishy, then I don't know what to say. Maybe get some olfactory testing done?

                                          It's Chinatown Politics.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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