How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?

[jon-nyc]

What were these guys thinking? They must know they're on video.

Did they think by the end of the day Trump would be king and forgive them? WTF?

[Aqua Letifer]

@jon-nyc said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

What were these guys thinking? They must know they're on video.

Did they think by the end of the day Trump would be king and forgive them? WTF?

Kind of like what Loki said earlier, it could be that a lot of police have been trained to believe that BLM liberals hate them, and that conservatives are the Blue Lives party. So, hey, no threat here.

Maybe something like that? It's not like they knew what would happen afterward.

[Doctor Phibes]

@jon-nyc said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

What were these guys thinking? They must know they're on video.

Did they think by the end of the day Trump would be king and forgive them? WTF?

The morons on Twitter apparently think it was all a setup by the Swamp.

[Horace]

@aqua-letifer said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

@jon-nyc said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

What were these guys thinking? They must know they're on video.

Did they think by the end of the day Trump would be king and forgive them? WTF?

Kind of like what Loki said earlier, it could be that a lot of police have been trained to believe that BLM liberals hate them, and that conservatives are the Blue Lives party. So, hey, no threat here.

Maybe something like that? It's not like they knew what would happen afterward.

Occam's razor might indicate that police are unwilling to risk doing their jobs these days when it comes to dealing with mobs.

[Rich]

Maybe that's how modern policing is trained to deal with large crowds of potential rioters....Perhaps an attempt at de-escalating or at least delaying direct confrontation until it is deemed absolutely necessary.

We watched a number of cities let rioters/protesters for BLM go much farther than we expected they would, so this seems like a continuation of that practice.

[Copper]

I watched some of the riot live. What I saw, at a distance, looked like a normal bunch of tourists hanging around the Capitol.

I know there were guys breaking things and fighting, but most of the live video was just morons hanging around taking pictures.

[xenon]

@copper said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

I watched some of the riot live. What I saw, at a distance, looked like a normal bunch of tourists hanging around the Capitol.

I know there were guys breaking things and fighting, but most of the live video was just morons hanging around taking pictures.

A mostly peaceful protest.

[Jolly]

@xenon said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

@copper said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

I watched some of the riot live. What I saw, at a distance, looked like a normal bunch of tourists hanging around the Capitol.

I know there were guys breaking things and fighting, but most of the live video was just morons hanging around taking pictures.

A mostly peaceful protest.

If you go by sheer percentages, yes.

There were many thousands of people at that rally. How many actually became violent idiots?

[Aqua Letifer]

@rich said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

Maybe that's how modern policing is trained to deal with large crowds of potential rioters....Perhaps an attempt at de-escalating or at least delaying direct confrontation until it is deemed absolutely necessary.

I don't know about modern policing generally, but DC cops do try to follow that as an M.O. It's been that way for years now. As mik said, it's nearly impossible for these guys to do their job perfectly in the eyes of every American.

[xenon]

@jolly said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

@xenon said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

@copper said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

I watched some of the riot live. What I saw, at a distance, looked like a normal bunch of tourists hanging around the Capitol.

I know there were guys breaking things and fighting, but most of the live video was just morons hanging around taking pictures.

A mostly peaceful protest.

If you go by sheer percentages, yes.

There were many thousands of people at that rally. How many actually became violent idiots?

Ok - now do BLM

[Aqua Letifer]

@xenon said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

@jolly said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

@xenon said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

@copper said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

I watched some of the riot live. What I saw, at a distance, looked like a normal bunch of tourists hanging around the Capitol.

I know there were guys breaking things and fighting, but most of the live video was just morons hanging around taking pictures.

A mostly peaceful protest.

If you go by sheer percentages, yes.

There were many thousands of people at that rally. How many actually became violent idiots?

Ok - now do BLM

lol I just mentioned this like a half hour ago. This very thing.

[Jolly]

@xenon said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

@jolly said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

@xenon said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

@copper said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

I watched some of the riot live. What I saw, at a distance, looked like a normal bunch of tourists hanging around the Capitol.

I know there were guys breaking things and fighting, but most of the live video was just morons hanging around taking pictures.

A mostly peaceful protest.

If you go by sheer percentages, yes.

There were many thousands of people at that rally. How many actually became violent idiots?

Ok - now do BLM

Probably the same thing, although in sheer number of protests and violence, BLM far outstripped the Capitol protest.

[Horace]

@jolly said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

@xenon said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

@jolly said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

@xenon said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

@copper said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

I watched some of the riot live. What I saw, at a distance, looked like a normal bunch of tourists hanging around the Capitol.

I know there were guys breaking things and fighting, but most of the live video was just morons hanging around taking pictures.

A mostly peaceful protest.

If you go by sheer percentages, yes.

There were many thousands of people at that rally. How many actually became violent idiots?

Ok - now do BLM

Probably the same thing, although in sheer number of protests and violence, BLM far outstripped the Capitol protest.

Right,s because the outrage behind the BLM protests was far more prevalent than the election fraud outrage behind the Wednesday capitol riots.

[kluurs]

One of the sad things is that these folks truly believed in what they were told.

They were told to fight for what was right as the people we reverentially refer to as patriots did - the Boston Tea Party, the minutemen who fought the British, people standing up against the likes of Joseph Stalin, that is Democrats desiring to bring communism (i.e. the same thing as socialism) to America.

They believed. And they believed because the commentators told them that. They believed because the President told them so - and commentators suggested he was the greatest President since Lincoln. Ministers told him that he was doing the work of Jesus. They were the noble soldiers fighting to reclaim America as it was meant to be.

Gingrich shrieked at them that the election was being stolen in real time. He's a smart guy. Mike Huckabee, a man of God, said the same.

This country has too many commentators - both sides. The worst thing is that few incividuals actually get to separate the truth from semi-truth from the imaginary. In some ways that is the benefit of TCNR in that we collectively have tried to do that.

[Loki]

An honest conversation would include our nation’s ambivalence to how we police protests and our thoughts on defunding the police and what could happen to a police officer who happens to hurt or kill a protester.

Maybe it’s not relevant here but it sure is in my brain based on watching Portland, DC, NYC,Philadelphia protests and all the BLM stuff.

Acting shocked at what happened without these considerations makes no sense to me.

[jon-nyc]

@horace said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

Occam's razor might indicate that police are unwilling to risk doing their jobs these days when it comes to dealing with mobs.

That would explain some passivity but not so much the selfies and the waving people in.

[Jolly]

Ever stop to think the police may have thought there wouldn't be violence?

After all, there gave been many pro-Trump events in Washington over the past four years. How many turned violent?

[Aqua Letifer]

@xenon said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

I watched some of the riot live. What I saw, at a distance, looked like a normal bunch of tourists hanging around the Capitol.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CJxCzrSHIaT/

[Copper]

@aqua-letifer said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

@xenon said in How are these guys going to explain themselves to the slain officer's family?:

I watched some of the riot live. What I saw, at a distance, looked like a normal bunch of tourists hanging around the Capitol.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CJxCzrSHIaT/

That is the part I mentioned with the morons.

[Loki]

I think we’ve well covered all the bases here and now we need more information from the Capitol Police as to why they did what they did. I’m quite sure it will all come out.