The woman who was shot - graphic video
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And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:03 last edited by jon-nyc 1 Jul 2021, 15:07@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or an empty Old Navy.
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@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or an empty Old Navy.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:05 last edited by Horace 1 Jul 2021, 15:06@jon-nyc said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or and empty Old Navy.
Capitol building is a message, and completely unattainable. On the other hand, entire neighborhoods were secured by the rioting left. People were living in those neighborhoods, and you tell me if they felt free to say who they voted for.
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@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or an empty Old Navy.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:05 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or and empty Old Navy.
How the fuck many electoral college tallies were they taking in that Old Navy? Did they try to steal the physical votes for best khakis?
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@jon-nyc said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or and empty Old Navy.
Capitol building is a message, and completely unattainable. On the other hand, entire neighborhoods were secured by the rioting left. People were living in those neighborhoods, and you tell me if they felt free to say who they voted for.
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wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:14 last edited by Copper 1 Jul 2021, 15:14
In general public property should be more open than private.
Especially that public property
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That definitely confirms that the shot stopped the mob from attempting to breech the entrance to the are guarded by the secret service.
Soon enough we'll find out what they were guarding. Though 'an area of the capital building' is no doubt sufficient in law to justify the shot.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:17 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
That definitely confirms that the shot stopped the mob from attempting to breech the entrance to the are guarded by the secret service.
Soon enough we'll find out what they were guarding. Though 'an area of the capital building' is no doubt sufficient in law to justify the shot.
That's the actual point.
If the agents were protecting staffers or elected officials, the shot is righteous. Possibly ill-advised, but righteous.
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wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:19 last edited by
I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
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wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:21 last edited by
More about the woman.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/07/ashli-babbitt-dead-capitol-riot/
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I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:24 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
Right? Keep in mind the Vice President was in the building. I'm a little surprised the secret service didn't open up on the crowd with machine guns.
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I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:24 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
These people need to go to jail.
52 did go to jail
Probably not for long
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wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:24 last edited by jon-nyc 1 Jul 2021, 15:25
Surely if a crowd had done that to the White House they would have been met with a hail of automatic weapon fire.
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I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:24 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken.
Yeah, me too. It seems to me that the initial response was insufficient to cope with the threat posed, for whatever reason.
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@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken.
Yeah, me too. It seems to me that the initial response was insufficient to cope with the threat posed, for whatever reason.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:25 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
It seems to me that the initial response was insufficient to cope with the threat posed, for whatever reason.
I nominate this as the least controversial post in the history of TNCR.
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I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:27 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
Tons of people are looking into this, starting yesterday. I don't buy the completely predictable racism narrative but I'd sure like to know what went wrong.
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I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:30 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
Which is also a valid point.
My question is did someone want this to happen?
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@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
Which is also a valid point.
My question is did someone want this to happen?
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wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:51 last edited by jon-nyc 1 Jul 2021, 15:53
"Members and staff were at risk"
"That mob that was trying to get through that door left"
"His actions saved lives"
From a GOP Congressman who witnessed it and had spoken to the cop that took the shot. Watch the whole thing.
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@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or an empty Old Navy.
wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 15:52 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or an empty Old Navy.
Capitol.
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wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 21:09 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
I assume you mean besides Trump?
I don't think Trump thought that far.
Now, wipe the shit-eating grin off of your face and seriously address the question...
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wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 22:47 last edited by
John Sullivan, recorded a video of the aftermath, showing police with guns drawn and Babbitt lying in a pool of blood in a stairway inside the Capitol.
Sullivan is the founder of the left-wing activist group Insurgence USA. He said he was not at the Capitol as part of the protest but did not specify what exactly brought him there.
Describing the moments leading up to the shooting, Sullivan said protesters were trying to get into the main entrance of the chamber when they came upon two guards who refused to move.
The group then went down another hallway and used flag poles and other items to break windows to get into the chamber before a group of police emerged.
'All we see is these guns coming out of the doorway, just guns, and all you can see is their hands. You could not see faces,' he said.
'Right when I saw that I was yelling to people: 'Guys, there is guns, you don't want to go through there. They're going to shoot.''
Babbitt ignored Sullivan's plea and went ahead anyway, he said.
The obvious question is, what was Sullivan doing there to begin with?
