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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @jolly said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

    I see this differently. I think it's a very sad day when citizens are so riled up or aggrieved, they storm the Capitol. I have no problem defending the building or the people inside with deadly force. I think that we have not been as aggressive as needed in more than one Washington incident. Same opinion for other cities, such as Portland.

    Nope. THat's not different at all. This part anyway. The difference is, along with the sadness, we have anger directed at the man who did the riling and the enablers that knew better.

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    @jon-nyc said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

    @jolly said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

    I see this differently. I think it's a very sad day when citizens are so riled up or aggrieved, they storm the Capitol. I have no problem defending the building or the people inside with deadly force. I think that we have not been as aggressive as needed in more than one Washington incident. Same opinion for other cities, such as Portland.

    Nope. THat's not different at all. This part anyway. The difference is, along with the sadness, we have anger directed at the man who did the riling and the enablers that knew better.

    Bullshit.

    Post after joyous post confirms your absolute orgasmic satisfaction at another Trump loss. It doesn't matter why it happened. It doesn't matter who got hurt, who was killed, why people fought down the halls of the Capitol.

    It's all about winning. It's all about power. It's all about Trump or his supporters losing. It's all about MAGAT vermin hitting the floor, isn't it? They got what they deserved, didn't they? After all, people who supported or voted for Trump are idiots. Fools. Imbeciles, drooling as they zombie-shuffle to the voting booth.

    Enjoy. Wallow in the shattered glass. Blow up the scenes of the Capitol storming and use them for wall decor. Hell, take the sound recording of the agent's weapon, as he kills a woman in the hallway and use it for the ringtone on your phone.

    Enjoy. Enjoy the victory.

    But while you're patting yourself on the back after your glorious triumph, do a little introspection. Learn that your vicious hate for Trump or anything associated with him is not good for your soul. Hate eats at a man. It makes him less than what he could be...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      It sounds to me like you really despise us, Jolly.

      I was only joking

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        Obviously, it is central to jon's character that he is a winner. Trump made him feel like a loser. (Weird.) Of coure he is expressing his glee at this.

        Education is extremely important.

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          #207

          Trump incites a riot. I'm the bad guy.

          Ok.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            It sounds to me like you really despise us, Jolly.

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            @doctor-phibes said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

            It sounds to me like you really despise us, Jolly.

            It didn't need to "sound" like anything for the past four years for Trump supporters to realize they were hated, in the true sense of the word hate. It just was. We all contribute to our own social ideas, but you will never find me feeling shame for supporting Trump, after the hatred I watched on display.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Trump incites a riot. I'm the bad guy.

              Ok.

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              @jon-nyc said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

              Trump incites a riot. I'm the bad guy.

              Ok.

              You're not a bad guy. You're normal.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Trump incites a riot. I am the evil banality.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Trump incites a riot. I am the evil banality.

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                  @jon-nyc said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

                  Trump incites a riot. I am the evil banality.

                  A riot you have now devoted more righteous outrage to than any of the longer lasting and wider spread riots in response to the racism narrative that is at least as nonsensical as Trumpism.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    I finally got around to looking at cnn

                    Boy do they love this

                    They are reporting 4 deaths in yesterday's deadly riot

                    Including

                    "One adult female and two adult males appear to have suffered from separate medical emergencies, which resulted in their deaths. Any loss of life in the District is tragic and our thoughts are with anyone impacted by their loss," Contee said at a news conference Wednesday night.

                    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/us-capitol-lockdown/index.html

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                      Yeah, I posted about the 4 deaths yesterday. Or maybe this morning early.

                      I was about to post again, wondering what the deal was with 3 medical deaths. Seems highly unusual.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @jon-nyc said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

                        @jolly said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

                        I see this differently. I think it's a very sad day when citizens are so riled up or aggrieved, they storm the Capitol. I have no problem defending the building or the people inside with deadly force. I think that we have not been as aggressive as needed in more than one Washington incident. Same opinion for other cities, such as Portland.

                        Nope. THat's not different at all. This part anyway. The difference is, along with the sadness, we have anger directed at the man who did the riling and the enablers that knew better.

                        Bullshit.

                        Post after joyous post confirms your absolute orgasmic satisfaction at another Trump loss. It doesn't matter why it happened. It doesn't matter who got hurt, who was killed, why people fought down the halls of the Capitol.

                        It's all about winning. It's all about power. It's all about Trump or his supporters losing. It's all about MAGAT vermin hitting the floor, isn't it? They got what they deserved, didn't they? After all, people who supported or voted for Trump are idiots. Fools. Imbeciles, drooling as they zombie-shuffle to the voting booth.

                        Enjoy. Wallow in the shattered glass. Blow up the scenes of the Capitol storming and use them for wall decor. Hell, take the sound recording of the agent's weapon, as he kills a woman in the hallway and use it for the ringtone on your phone.

                        Enjoy. Enjoy the victory.

                        But while you're patting yourself on the back after your glorious triumph, do a little introspection. Learn that your vicious hate for Trump or anything associated with him is not good for your soul. Hate eats at a man. It makes him less than what he could be...

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                        @jolly said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

                        Bullshit.

                        You're just wrong Jolly.

                        Did I want Trump to get his cummupance? Of course. Would I be happy to see him get expunged by his own cabinet? Yes. Or as you might put it, hell to the yes.

                        But this was an historic stain on the republic. Yesterday I was just angry and sad.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          Good job with the emotion feeling. It marks you as a good person. Just like the ridicule and giggles have marked good people on the left for the last four years.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            You have always had trouble imagining people different than yourself.

                            Reminds me when you thought I couldn't possibly be upset watching Notre Dame burn. It was just preening of one sort or another.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Yeah but I imagine myself so incredibly well, that's the important thing.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                I do remember calling you out on your solemnity at Notre Dame burning. Ok then. You've thought about it and it has damaged your life since then.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Yeah, I posted about the 4 deaths yesterday. Or maybe this morning early.

                                  I was about to post again, wondering what the deal was with 3 medical deaths. Seems highly unusual.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

                                  Yeah, I posted about the 4 deaths yesterday. Or maybe this morning early.

                                  I was about to post again, wondering what the deal was with 3 medical deaths. Seems highly unusual.

                                  Yeah all I heard was 4 deaths and I was horrified and then this morning the caveat came in and I said what the fuck was I played? Yeah 1 is 1 too many but the context for the 4 was played to the hilt. Trust in news down again just as I was willing to listen.

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    It sounds to me like you really despise us, Jolly.

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                                    @doctor-phibes said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

                                    It sounds to me like you really despise us, Jolly.

                                    Sometimes, I do. Sometimes, I'm ashamed of some of you.

                                    It started with the false Russia dossier and not being up in rhetorical arms about violating the rule of law, our Justice system and perverting the courts for political gain. No matter one's politics, country should come first.

                                    You do what is good for the country. You do what is good for the Constitution.

                                    It doesn't matter who is in the Whitehouse or how much you hate them. Always remember, occupants change, but the basic principles of law and rights remain.

                                    Politics ain't beanbag, but in order for this system of government to function, things have to be as fair and open as possible. The media needs to fulfill its responsibilities as a fair and unbiased reporter of information. National disagreements have to be hammered out on the floors of the Congress or adjudicated in the courts. People need to have faith in the voting system and that simply can't happen with massive mail-in voting.

                                    And some people have to understand that everybody on the other side of the political aisle is not an idiot.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      @89th said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

                                      @mik said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

                                      Honestly, at this point I'd support removing him from office based on the 25th.

                                      Agreed.

                                      Haven’t read rest of thread yet but I was just saying the same to my good buddies who are all conservative too. We all support his immediate removal by 25th amendment or by impeachment.

                                      David Frum:
                                      https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/remove-trump-tonight/617576/

                                      I guess you guys are not alone. Though to be honest, I don’t think I want to go that far, I still believe there are enough sane people in Congress, in the courts, and in the armed forces, to prevent Trump from actually creating a bigger riot or bigger insurrection without having to formally remove Trump from office between now and Biden getting sworn in.

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                                      @axtremus said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

                                      I still believe there are enough sane people in Congress, in the courts, and in the armed forces, to prevent Trump from actually creating a bigger riot or bigger insurrection without having to formally remove Trump from office between now and Biden getting sworn in.

                                      Ax, I'd be curious as to your take on how likely this is.

                                      My days of saying, "Oh, even Trump wouldn't go that far" are far behind me. I kind of don't think he would, but he's not the most flexible knife in the drawer. He has one tactic for achieving his aims; that's to lower his horns and keep on charging.

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        @doctor-phibes said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

                                        There was no glee from me, and I sure as hell wasn't happy to see people die, whatever you might choose to imply about me, Jolly.

                                        Same. I feel sadness mainly. 😔

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                                        @taiwan_girl said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

                                        @doctor-phibes said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

                                        There was no glee from me, and I sure as hell wasn't happy to see people die, whatever you might choose to imply about me, Jolly.

                                        Same. I feel sadness mainly.

                                        Very much ditto.

                                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                          @jon-nyc said in What’s going to be the bigger shit show today?:

                                          Yeah, I posted about the 4 deaths yesterday. Or maybe this morning early.

                                          I was about to post again, wondering what the deal was with 3 medical deaths. Seems highly unusual.

                                          Yeah all I heard was 4 deaths and I was horrified and then this morning the caveat came in and I said what the fuck was I played? Yeah 1 is 1 too many but the context for the 4 was played to the hilt. Trust in news down again just as I was willing to listen.

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                                          @loki

                                          It just seems like too many random heart attacks for a crowd that size, no?

                                          I wonder if there were folks with underlying breathing issues caught in a stampede or compressed in a crowd or something.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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