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    Axtremus
    wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:05 last edited by
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/04/19/pro-gun-activists-using-facebook-groups-push-anti-quarantine-protests/

    A trio of far-right, pro-gun provocateurs is behind some of the largest Facebook groups calling for anti-quarantine protests around the country, offering the latest illustration that some seemingly organic demonstrations are being engineered by a network of conservative activists.

    The Facebook groups target Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania and New York, and they appear to be the work of Ben Dorr, the political director of a group called “Minnesota Gun Rights,” and his siblings, Christopher and Aaron. By Sunday, the groups had roughly 200,000 members combined, and they continued to expand quickly, days after President Trump endorsed such protests by suggesting citizens should “liberate” their states.
    The Dorr brothers manage a slew of pro-gun groups across a wide range of states, from Iowa to Minnesota to New York, and seek primarily to discredit organizations like the National Rifle Association as being too compromising on gun safety. Minnesota Gun Rights, for instance, describes itself as the state’s “no-compromise gun rights organization.”

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      Copper
      wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:12 last edited by
      #2

      Why isn't that organic?

      And so what? Who cares if it is organic? I doubt if the demonstrators do.

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        Loki
        wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:49 last edited by
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        So far perhaps. If one thinks people will tolerate being quarantined for much longer they better hope for compelling death data. I sense people are looking for the end of this and very soon.

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        • L Loki
          20 Apr 2020, 02:49

          So far perhaps. If one thinks people will tolerate being quarantined for much longer they better hope for compelling death data. I sense people are looking for the end of this and very soon.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:53 last edited by
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          @Loki said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

          I sense people are looking for the end of this and very soon.

          I sense you're projecting. And what's funny is you seem to think lifting the quarantine is going to "end" anything.

          Please love yourself.

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          • A Aqua Letifer
            20 Apr 2020, 02:53

            @Loki said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

            I sense people are looking for the end of this and very soon.

            I sense you're projecting. And what's funny is you seem to think lifting the quarantine is going to "end" anything.

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            Loki
            wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:56 last edited by
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            @Aqua-Letifer said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

            @Loki said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

            I sense people are looking for the end of this and very soon.

            I sense you're projecting. And what's funny is you seem to think lifting the quarantine is going to "end" anything.

            I guess we will see. My reaction was authentic but perhaps I am biased. My gut tells me that even governors can’t withstand economic disaster. It will be fascinating to watch.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:58 last edited by
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              What do you think would happen if in a week, everyone goes back to work? Honestly, what do you think would happen to our health care system in the weeks that followed?

              Please love yourself.

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                Copper
                wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 03:01 last edited by
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                We know that won’t happen.

                For one thing we know you won’t go back.

                And you won’t be alone.

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 03:03 last edited by
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                  I don't find this fascinating to watch at all.

                  I was only joking

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                  • C Copper
                    20 Apr 2020, 03:01

                    We know that won’t happen.

                    For one thing we know you won’t go back.

                    And you won’t be alone.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 03:06 last edited by
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                    @Copper said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                    We know that won’t happen.

                    For one thing we know you won’t go back.

                    And you won’t be alone.

                    No need for me. Still working remotely, so the risk is both stupid and severe. For others who don't have that option, I totally get it, but guaranteed the R0 increases. The only questions are by how much, and can we avoid overwhelming the health care system.

                    MD is working on the quantitative steps it's outlined to try to take care of that. But it's going to take longer than what some would want.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • A Aqua Letifer
                      20 Apr 2020, 03:06

                      @Copper said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                      We know that won’t happen.

                      For one thing we know you won’t go back.

                      And you won’t be alone.

                      No need for me. Still working remotely, so the risk is both stupid and severe. For others who don't have that option, I totally get it, but guaranteed the R0 increases. The only questions are by how much, and can we avoid overwhelming the health care system.

                      MD is working on the quantitative steps it's outlined to try to take care of that. But it's going to take longer than what some would want.

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                      Improviso
                      wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 11:34 last edited by
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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                      @Copper said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                      We know that won’t happen.

                      For one thing we know you won’t go back.

                      And you won’t be alone.

                      No need for me. Still working remotely, so the risk is both stupid and severe.

                      I wonder if your attitude would be so cavalier if you were not still receiving an income.

                      I'd bet not.

                      We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                      • I Improviso
                        20 Apr 2020, 11:34

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                        @Copper said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                        We know that won’t happen.

                        For one thing we know you won’t go back.

                        And you won’t be alone.

                        No need for me. Still working remotely, so the risk is both stupid and severe.

                        I wonder if your attitude would be so cavalier if you were not still receiving an income.

                        I'd bet not.

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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 12:03 last edited by Aqua Letifer
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                        @Improviso said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                        @Copper said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                        We know that won’t happen.

                        For one thing we know you won’t go back.

                        And you won’t be alone.

                        No need for me. Still working remotely, so the risk is both stupid and severe.

                        I wonder if your attitude would be so cavalier if you were not still receiving an income.

                        I'd bet not.

                        Says someone who doesn't even have to consider working. If you had read other posts on this—which you haven't—you'd know my job security is very fragile.

                        LD asked us earlier what we'd do about a reopening plan. Why don't you actually go and read that thread before you start making shit up about my position.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 12:19 last edited by
                          #12

                          Pro-Second Amendment people tend to be pretty picky about their rights. They also tend to be people who are not happy with government telling them what to do.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • A Aqua Letifer
                            20 Apr 2020, 12:03

                            @Improviso said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                            @Copper said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                            We know that won’t happen.

                            For one thing we know you won’t go back.

                            And you won’t be alone.

                            No need for me. Still working remotely, so the risk is both stupid and severe.

                            I wonder if your attitude would be so cavalier if you were not still receiving an income.

                            I'd bet not.

                            Says someone who doesn't even have to consider working. If you had read other posts on this—which you haven't—you'd know my job security is very fragile.

                            LD asked us earlier what we'd do about a reopening plan. Why don't you actually go and read that thread before you start making shit up about my position.

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                            Improviso
                            wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 12:31 last edited by
                            #13

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                            @Improviso said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                            @Copper said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                            We know that won’t happen.

                            For one thing we know you won’t go back.

                            And you won’t be alone.

                            No need for me. Still working remotely, so the risk is both stupid and severe.

                            I wonder if your attitude would be so cavalier if you were not still receiving an income.

                            I'd bet not.

                            Says someone who doesn't even have to consider working. If you had read other posts on this—which you haven't—you'd know my job security is very fragile.

                            LD asked us earlier what we'd do about a reopening plan. Why don't you actually go and read that thread before you start making shit up about my position.

                            Now, I sense you're projecting. You have no idea what I read or don't.

                            You wanna stay home? Fine. Stay home. But don't assume other people share your opinion. They don't.

                            We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                            Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                            • I Improviso
                              20 Apr 2020, 12:31

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                              @Improviso said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                              @Copper said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                              We know that won’t happen.

                              For one thing we know you won’t go back.

                              And you won’t be alone.

                              No need for me. Still working remotely, so the risk is both stupid and severe.

                              I wonder if your attitude would be so cavalier if you were not still receiving an income.

                              I'd bet not.

                              Says someone who doesn't even have to consider working. If you had read other posts on this—which you haven't—you'd know my job security is very fragile.

                              LD asked us earlier what we'd do about a reopening plan. Why don't you actually go and read that thread before you start making shit up about my position.

                              Now, I sense you're projecting. You have no idea what I read or don't.

                              You wanna stay home? Fine. Stay home. But don't assume other people share your opinion. They don't.

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 12:38 last edited by Aqua Letifer
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                              @Improviso said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                              @Improviso said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                              @Copper said in Those Anti-Quarantine Protests ...:

                              We know that won’t happen.

                              For one thing we know you won’t go back.

                              And you won’t be alone.

                              No need for me. Still working remotely, so the risk is both stupid and severe.

                              I wonder if your attitude would be so cavalier if you were not still receiving an income.

                              I'd bet not.

                              Says someone who doesn't even have to consider working. If you had read other posts on this—which you haven't—you'd know my job security is very fragile.

                              LD asked us earlier what we'd do about a reopening plan. Why don't you actually go and read that thread before you start making shit up about my position.

                              Now, I sense you're projecting. You have no idea what I read or don't.

                              Okay, what's my idea then? You don't know, do you? I have a plan I threw up about how to do this safely. You have no idea what I'm talking about because no, you haven't read it. It wasn't "everybody stay home."

                              Please love yourself.

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