How long?
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Your right to peacefully protest ends where my property line begins. None of the videos show demonstrators crossing onto private property, and several of them show a rather large police presence.
At Hawley's, the demonstrators were on his property (front porch) and there were, I believe 3 cops keeping that from happening again. When the demonstrators are at your front door, either knocking or pouring (you can believe whom you wish about this), that's threatening.
Good, at least you acknolwedge that some forms of protests at private residences are acceptable, unlike Mik who seem to have taken the position that no protest outside private residence is acceptable and want to mow the protesters down with a “Ma Deuce”, whatever that means.
As for whom to believe on knocking vs. pounding, I believe the video more than I believe the tweet. Afterall, Jolly kept telling us that all politicians lie all the time, but Jolly hasn‘t say that all protesters lie all the time.
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Hawley was caught in a lie, sure, but we shouldn’t declare open season on him for that.
Now that‘s a reasonable position.
Peaceful protest outside, OK.
But don’t block the entrace, don‘t spray paint his house, don’t leave a pighead or blood or aynthing like that. Respect the town’s existing ordinaces too, as applicable (e.g., if the town ordiannce says quiet hours starts at 9PM, pipedown by 9PM).
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Officers were called to Hawley's home in Vienna, a Washington suburb, home around 7:45 p.m. after someone reported that there were “people protesting in front of the house.” Officers who responded to the scene found that the “people were peaceful,” said Master Police Officer Juan Vazquez, a spokesman for the Town of Vienna Police Department.
The demonstrators said they went to Hawley's home because he said he would object when Congress convenes Wednesday to affirm Joe Biden’s election victory.
Vazquez said the protesters had been violating several laws, including a Virginia code about picketing in front of a house, a town ordinance about making noise in front of a home and a littering code. But he said the officers explained the violations and “everyone just left.”
“There were no issues, no arrests,” he said. “We didn’t think it was that big of a deal.”
Hawley accused the group of vandalism and threats against his family.
“Tonight while I was in Missouri, Antifa scumbags came to our place in DC and threatened my wife and newborn daughter, who can’t travel,” Hawley wrote on Twitter. “They screamed threats, vandalized, and tried to pound open our door. Let me be clear: My family & I will not be intimidated.”
But the group, ShutdownDC, posted a nearly hour-long video that showed about a dozen protesters arriving at Hawley’s home, chanting and shouting through a megaphone, walking up to his doorstep, waving signs and writing on the sidewalk with chalk.
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I was a little flip in my previous response, of course. But notwithstanding Hawley's exaggerations, I'm appalled at the idea of protesting at the homes of public officials. It's just a matter of time until one of these protests turns into something violent.
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We can all count on the left to admonish these terrorists that are on their side.
How many right leaning folks on this thread spoke up when the Trump mob protested outside of GA Sec State Raffensperger's house a month ago and sent death threats to his wife?
Down with that sort of stuff. Let me retroactively provide my opinion of this thing I just heard of now.
Education is extremely important.
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You misspelled zero.
DON’T let them eat cake.
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Now imagine if, right before this occurred, Biden had called Hawley an "enemy of the people".
DON’T let them eat cake.
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You accidentally hit on the truth in your attempt at sarcasm. It wouldn't be a constitutional crisis but a slippery slope indeed.
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BTW, the last protest at Pelosi's home, complete with severed pig head, was done by Leftists.
I was just looking at that thread the George-K started: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/6451/careful-graffit ... I haven‘t see you or Mik make a peap there yet.
I'm sorry, but if you haven't figured out personal positions after years of posts on a particular subject, you are either a fool or blindly partisan.
I don't think you are a fool.
Blindly partisan runs rampant on this forum. The trenches were dug long ago. I'm glad to be on the side of decency and honesty. The other side throws that out the door in pursuit of power. Fuck your side.
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@nobodyssock said in How long?:
BTW, the last protest at Pelosi's home, complete with severed pig head, was done by Leftists.
I was just looking at that thread the George-K started: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/6451/careful-graffit ... I haven‘t see you or Mik make a peap there yet.
I'm sorry, but if you haven't figured out personal positions after years of posts on a particular subject, you are either a fool or blindly partisan.
I don't think you are a fool.
Blindly partisan runs rampant on this forum. The trenches were dug long ago. I'm glad to be on the side of decency and honesty. The other side throws that out the door in pursuit of power. Fuck your side.
Right on, brother!
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We can all count on the left to admonish these terrorists that are on their side.
How many right leaning folks on this thread spoke up when the Trump mob protested outside of GA Sec State Raffensperger's house a month ago and sent death threats to his wife?
None, because in their hearts, they believe he deserves this wrath. How dare he refuse Trump!
I believe Hawley deserves the wrath as well. He's just another Republican tool looking to advance to higher office and preserve the Trump base for votes.
I don't believe protests should encroach one's private property though. That's crossing the line.
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@nobodyssock said in How long?:
BTW, the last protest at Pelosi's home, complete with severed pig head, was done by Leftists.
I was just looking at that thread the George-K started: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/6451/careful-graffit ... I haven‘t see you or Mik make a peap there yet.
I'm sorry, but if you haven't figured out personal positions after years of posts on a particular subject, you are either a fool or blindly partisan.
I don't think you are a fool.
Blindly partisan runs rampant on this forum. The trenches were dug long ago. I'm glad to be on the side of decency and honesty. The other side throws that out the door in pursuit of power. Fuck your side.
Right on, brother!
I love you and this forum man!
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We can all count on the left to admonish these terrorists that are on their side.
How many right leaning folks on this thread spoke up when the Trump mob protested outside of GA Sec State Raffensperger's house a month ago and sent death threats to his wife?
I didn't hear anything about it, but I feel the same way about it.
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Slippery slopes are all the rage. They allow people to pretend their irrational fears are really happening, and to convince others to respond accordingly.
When a mob descends on a politician's house a few days after the president tweets that said politician is an "enemy of the people" then something I (quite rationally) fear is already happening.
DON’T let them eat cake.
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Slippery slopes are all the rage. They allow people to pretend their irrational fears are really happening, and to convince others to respond accordingly.
When a mob descends on a politician's house a few days after the president tweets that said politician is an "enemy of the people" then something I (quite rationally) fear is already happening.
Sure. A bit similar to how Trump supporters couldn't express themselves out loud for the past four years.
