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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #50

    That is entirely possible.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #51

      Glad they did this study. I'll be curious to see whether Weinstein accepts it. No comment on Twitter at the time of this writing.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #52

        Here's why I hate the media.

        Personally, I have no opinion on the effectiveness of ivermectin. This is NOT an endorsement of the drug.

        CNN's Headline: Health officials warn people not to take a drug meant for livestock to ward off or treat Covid-19

        Mississippi health officials are warning residents not to take an anti-parasitic drug -- in most cases, a formulation purchased at livestock supply centers -- to treat or prevent Covid-19.

        The Mississippi State Department of Health issued an alert on Friday that the Mississippi Poison Control Center has received an increasing number of calls from people who have taken the drug known as ivermectin -- and that at least 70% of such calls related to "ingestion of livestock or animal formulations of ivermectin purchased at livestock supply centers."

        While there are human uses for the drug, the US Food and Drug Administration has not approved ivermectin to treat or prevent Covid-19 in humans and the drug is not an anti-viral medication.

        Ah, "while there are human uses...."

        So, IOW, it's not just a livestock drug as the headline screams.

        Ivermectin

        Ivermectin, sold under the brand name Stromectol among others, is a medication that is used to treat parasite infestations. In humans, this includes head lice, scabies, river blindness (onchocerciasis), strongyloidiasis, trichuriasis, ascariasis, and lymphatic filariasis.

        Assholes.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #53

          Indeed.

          Saw NBC news this morning. They described Biden as ‘steadfast’ on his strategy in Afghanistan. I cannot help but wonder what their word choices would have been if t were Trump.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            Indeed.

            Saw NBC news this morning. They described Biden as ‘steadfast’ on his strategy in Afghanistan. I cannot help but wonder what their word choices would have been if t were Trump.

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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #54

            @mik said in Ivermectin:

            I cannot help but wonder what their word choices would have been if t were Trump.

            "Stubborn"
            "Inflexible"
            "Entrenched"

            Those work?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @mik said in Ivermectin:

              I cannot help but wonder what their word choices would have been if t were Trump.

              "Stubborn"
              "Inflexible"
              "Entrenched"

              Those work?

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #55

              @george-k said in Ivermectin:

              @mik said in Ivermectin:

              I cannot help but wonder what their word choices would have been if t were Trump.

              "Stubborn"
              "Inflexible"
              "Entrenched"

              Those work?

              Maybe “doubled down” or “dug in”.

              Look up “Russell conjugation”.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • CopperC Offline
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                Copper
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                #56

                Reckless

                out-of-control

                uninformed

                in a rage

                impulsive

                flaming monster

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                • kluursK Offline
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                  kluurs
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #57

                  Apparently, Ivermectin didn't work as well as planned.

                  Reuters
                  An anti-vaxx police officer has died in Georgia after a short battle with COVID-19.

                  Captain Joe Manning posted anti-vaxx messages on Facebook and took the drug ivermectin.

                  A Georgia police officer who frequently posted anti-vaxx messages on Facebook and took an anti-parasitic drug instead of a vaccine has died of COVID-19.

                  Captain Joe Manning, 57, of the Wayne County Sheriff's Office died on Wednesday after a short battle with the virus, according to local news station WSAV.

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                    Horace
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                    #58

                    Just listened to Bret Weinstein's podcast again yesterday. A mea culpa was presented about some pro-Ivermectin study that now seems likely to be fraudulent. But no update to his belief in the value of Ivermectin.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      Just listened to Bret Weinstein's podcast again yesterday. A mea culpa was presented about some pro-Ivermectin study that now seems likely to be fraudulent. But no update to his belief in the value of Ivermectin.

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                      George K
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                      #59

                      @horace said in Ivermectin:

                      A mea culpa was presented about some pro-Ivermectin study that now seems likely to be fraudulent.

                      I think you're referring to the Egyptian study. I may have linked to it.

                      A couple of people found that that study was rife with statistical errors, made-up data, and plagiarism.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @horace said in Ivermectin:

                        A mea culpa was presented about some pro-Ivermectin study that now seems likely to be fraudulent.

                        I think you're referring to the Egyptian study. I may have linked to it.

                        A couple of people found that that study was rife with statistical errors, made-up data, and plagiarism.

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                        Horace
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                        @george-k said in Ivermectin:

                        @horace said in Ivermectin:

                        A mea culpa was presented about some pro-Ivermectin study that now seems likely to be fraudulent.

                        I think you're referring to the Egyptian study. I may have linked to it.

                        A couple of people found that that study was rife with statistical errors, made-up data, and plagiarism.

                        Sadly no, I'm not referring to that study. This was another one, I think out of Argentina, which focused on the prophylactic effects of the drug, rather than curative effects. When Bret discussed the Egypt study a couple weeks ago, he shrugged it off, and reminded everybody that he's most excited about the prophylactic value of Ivermectin. Now when discussing this Argentina study, he mentioned that it didn't say anything about the curative properties. Sigh.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • George KG George K

                          Here's why I hate the media.

                          Personally, I have no opinion on the effectiveness of ivermectin. This is NOT an endorsement of the drug.

                          CNN's Headline: Health officials warn people not to take a drug meant for livestock to ward off or treat Covid-19

                          Mississippi health officials are warning residents not to take an anti-parasitic drug -- in most cases, a formulation purchased at livestock supply centers -- to treat or prevent Covid-19.

                          The Mississippi State Department of Health issued an alert on Friday that the Mississippi Poison Control Center has received an increasing number of calls from people who have taken the drug known as ivermectin -- and that at least 70% of such calls related to "ingestion of livestock or animal formulations of ivermectin purchased at livestock supply centers."

                          While there are human uses for the drug, the US Food and Drug Administration has not approved ivermectin to treat or prevent Covid-19 in humans and the drug is not an anti-viral medication.

                          Ah, "while there are human uses...."

                          So, IOW, it's not just a livestock drug as the headline screams.

                          Ivermectin

                          Ivermectin, sold under the brand name Stromectol among others, is a medication that is used to treat parasite infestations. In humans, this includes head lice, scabies, river blindness (onchocerciasis), strongyloidiasis, trichuriasis, ascariasis, and lymphatic filariasis.

                          Assholes.

                          JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #61

                          @george-k said in Ivermectin:

                          Here's why I hate the media.

                          Personally, I have no opinion on the effectiveness of ivermectin. This is NOT an endorsement of the drug.

                          CNN's Headline: Health officials warn people not to take a drug meant for livestock to ward off or treat Covid-19

                          Mississippi health officials are warning residents not to take an anti-parasitic drug -- in most cases, a formulation purchased at livestock supply centers -- to treat or prevent Covid-19.

                          The Mississippi State Department of Health issued an alert on Friday that the Mississippi Poison Control Center has received an increasing number of calls from people who have taken the drug known as ivermectin -- and that at least 70% of such calls related to "ingestion of livestock or animal formulations of ivermectin purchased at livestock supply centers."

                          While there are human uses for the drug, the US Food and Drug Administration has not approved ivermectin to treat or prevent Covid-19 in humans and the drug is not an anti-viral medication.

                          Ah, "while there are human uses...."

                          So, IOW, it's not just a livestock drug as the headline screams.

                          Ivermectin

                          Ivermectin, sold under the brand name Stromectol among others, is a medication that is used to treat parasite infestations. In humans, this includes head lice, scabies, river blindness (onchocerciasis), strongyloidiasis, trichuriasis, ascariasis, and lymphatic filariasis.

                          Assholes.

                          Again, this is supposed to be a hard news piece:

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/tv/ivermectin-debacle-exposes-hypocrisy-of-anti-vaccine-crowd/vi-AANQRE2

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @george-k said in Ivermectin:

                            Here's why I hate the media.

                            Personally, I have no opinion on the effectiveness of ivermectin. This is NOT an endorsement of the drug.

                            CNN's Headline: Health officials warn people not to take a drug meant for livestock to ward off or treat Covid-19

                            Mississippi health officials are warning residents not to take an anti-parasitic drug -- in most cases, a formulation purchased at livestock supply centers -- to treat or prevent Covid-19.

                            The Mississippi State Department of Health issued an alert on Friday that the Mississippi Poison Control Center has received an increasing number of calls from people who have taken the drug known as ivermectin -- and that at least 70% of such calls related to "ingestion of livestock or animal formulations of ivermectin purchased at livestock supply centers."

                            While there are human uses for the drug, the US Food and Drug Administration has not approved ivermectin to treat or prevent Covid-19 in humans and the drug is not an anti-viral medication.

                            Ah, "while there are human uses...."

                            So, IOW, it's not just a livestock drug as the headline screams.

                            Ivermectin

                            Ivermectin, sold under the brand name Stromectol among others, is a medication that is used to treat parasite infestations. In humans, this includes head lice, scabies, river blindness (onchocerciasis), strongyloidiasis, trichuriasis, ascariasis, and lymphatic filariasis.

                            Assholes.

                            Again, this is supposed to be a hard news piece:

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/tv/ivermectin-debacle-exposes-hypocrisy-of-anti-vaccine-crowd/vi-AANQRE2

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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #62

                            @jolly said in Ivermectin:

                            Again, this is supposed to be a hard news piece:
                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/tv/ivermectin-debacle-exposes-hypocrisy-of-anti-vaccine-crowd/vi-AANQRE2

                            CNN's Pamela Brown reports this includes an anti-parasitic medicine for horses and cows.

                            AND HUMANS, you assholes.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #63

                              And this is CNN.

                              It's a great hard news story, but they spent more time researching clips of commentators on FOX than they did on actually reporting the news about the drug.

                              BTW, did y'all know that CNN has two FTE's tasked to monitoring FOX News programming?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                L Offline
                                Loki
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #64

                                The issue is it is almost impossible to get the human form of ivermectin so all the anti vaxxers are sharing tips and tricks to get it in animal form. I saw a FB site (reading it was ghoulish) dedicated to such and some podcasts. It’s still a thing even as a few major anti vax ivermectin taking and pumping leaders in Texas and Florida died of Covid this past week.

                                So I think the emphasis on animal form has some merit in this context.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #65

                                  The amount of dosage is all over the internet. The problem is that people do not follow it or that they're totally unfamiliar with how to deliver a paste dose from a syringe.

                                  Ivermectin may not help them, but a normal dose has a very low probability of hurting them.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Mik
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                                    It's getting crazy in the next county over from me.

                                    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2021/08/30/ivermectin-lawsuit-butler-county-judge-orders-hospital-treat-covid-19-patient-drug/5647432001/

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      It's getting crazy in the next county over from me.

                                      https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2021/08/30/ivermectin-lawsuit-butler-county-judge-orders-hospital-treat-covid-19-patient-drug/5647432001/

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                                      jodi
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                                      @mik said in Ivermectin:

                                      It's getting crazy in the next county over from me.

                                      https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2021/08/30/ivermectin-lawsuit-butler-county-judge-orders-hospital-treat-covid-19-patient-drug/5647432001/

                                      Jesus.

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                                      • L Loki

                                        The issue is it is almost impossible to get the human form of ivermectin so all the anti vaxxers are sharing tips and tricks to get it in animal form. I saw a FB site (reading it was ghoulish) dedicated to such and some podcasts. It’s still a thing even as a few major anti vax ivermectin taking and pumping leaders in Texas and Florida died of Covid this past week.

                                        So I think the emphasis on animal form has some merit in this context.

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                                        @loki said in Ivermectin:

                                        The issue is it is almost impossible to get the human form of ivermectin so all the anti vaxxers are sharing tips and tricks to get it in animal form. I saw a FB site (reading it was ghoulish) dedicated to such and some podcasts. It’s still a thing even as a few major anti vax ivermectin taking and pumping leaders in Texas and Florida died of Covid this past week.

                                        So I think the emphasis on animal form has some merit in this context.

                                        @loki I’ve got about human’s dose worth* leftover from Ruler’s last deworming. Bonus with this one is you can get rid of your tapeworms too.

                                        *actually don’t know anything about human dosage/ route of administration for ivermectin, for horses it’s oral, at 91 mcg/lb, and I’ve got 150lbs-worth leftover. It’s a lovely orange color and I have no idea what flavor it is. alt text

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          It's getting crazy in the next county over from me.

                                          https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2021/08/30/ivermectin-lawsuit-butler-county-judge-orders-hospital-treat-covid-19-patient-drug/5647432001/

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                                          @mik said in Ivermectin:

                                          It's getting crazy in the next county over from me.
                                          https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2021/08/30/ivermectin-lawsuit-butler-county-judge-orders-hospital-treat-covid-19-patient-drug/5647432001/

                                          This seems rather unusual. A court of law forces a hospital to administer a drug described, off label, by an outside doctor.

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