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About a week~10 days ago, we got down to only two states having R values above 1.
As of this morning, there are nine states with R values above 1.
I've noticed that trend as well.
Do you think it has anything to do with "re-opening," or is it a factor of having more positives because of testing?
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About a week~10 days ago, we got down to only two states having R values above 1.
As of this morning, there are nine states with R values above 1.
I've noticed that trend as well.
Do you think it has anything to do with "re-opening," or is it a factor of having more positives because of testing?
It’s going to spread as we open up. I don’t think there are any people disallusioned about that fact.
We are just beginning to seethe economic pain.... the real layoffs are just starting. Stark choices ahead.
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Looks great to me. Virtually unchanged since last week and generally better than last month.
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So much for it not liking the warm weather
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@Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:
Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.
Flattening the curve doesn't seem to be working for a lot of the country. Not particularly surprising when you see how everybody is behaving.
"Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.
I haven't read anything about hospitals and ICUs being overwhelmed, turning patients away in the last 5-6 weeks. Have you?
If not, the "flattening" has worked. If you want to talk about infection rates, that's another discussion.
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"Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.
Exactly. Suddenly everyone is moving the goalpost. It would be great if we could stop the spread completely, but the cost is likely too high, and that wasn’t the goal in the first place.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:
Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.
Flattening the curve doesn't seem to be working for a lot of the country. Not particularly surprising when you see how everybody is behaving.
"Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.
I haven't read anything about hospitals and ICUs being overwhelmed, turning patients away in the last 5-6 weeks. Have you?
If not, the "flattening" has worked. If you want to talk about infection rates, that's another discussion.
Unfortunately I think that one thing will lead inevitably to the other. I don't see how a high infection rate is sustainable without overwhelming the local hospitals. I'd love to be wrong.
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"Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.
Exactly. Suddenly everyone is moving the goalpost. It would be great if we could stop the spread completely, but the cost is likely too high, and that wasn’t the goal in the first place.
The 'behavior' I was referring to was protests, political rallies, massive groups of people congregating at the beach. The cost of not doing those things is not too high IMHO.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:
@Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:
Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.
Flattening the curve doesn't seem to be working for a lot of the country. Not particularly surprising when you see how everybody is behaving.
"Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.
I haven't read anything about hospitals and ICUs being overwhelmed, turning patients away in the last 5-6 weeks. Have you?
If not, the "flattening" has worked. If you want to talk about infection rates, that's another discussion.
Unfortunately I think that one thing will lead inevitably to the other. I don't see how a high infection rate is sustainable without overwhelming the local hospitals. I'd love to be wrong.
Sadly, you're right.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:
@Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:
Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.
Flattening the curve doesn't seem to be working for a lot of the country. Not particularly surprising when you see how everybody is behaving.
"Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.
I haven't read anything about hospitals and ICUs being overwhelmed, turning patients away in the last 5-6 weeks. Have you?
If not, the "flattening" has worked. If you want to talk about infection rates, that's another discussion.
Unfortunately I think that one thing will lead inevitably to the other. I don't see how a high infection rate is sustainable without overwhelming the local hospitals. I'd love to be wrong.
What do you define as "high" and over how long of a period of time?
Virginia is adding on 500 cases a day, and we are being told that is quite manageable for a long time. On April 22nd we were adding on 600 cases a day and it was the apocalypse...
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@Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:
The 'behavior' I was referring to was protests, political rallies, massive groups of people congregating at the beach. The cost of not doing those things is not too high IMHO.
I agree about the beach, and I also agree about the current protests and rallies. However, that doesn't mean that the costs of all protests are too high. There are some political causes that are worth some risk.
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Hypothetically, there's always something worth putting people at risk over. For some people, it's defending against the Nazi hordes, for others it's getting childcare 250 miles away and visiting a historic monument to "test their eyesight".