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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    About a week~10 days ago, we got down to only two states having R values above 1.

    As of this morning, there are nine states with R values above 1.

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    George K
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    @Axtremus said in rt.live:

    About a week~10 days ago, we got down to only two states having R values above 1.

    As of this morning, there are nine states with R values above 1.

    I've noticed that trend as well.

    Do you think it has anything to do with "re-opening," or is it a factor of having more positives because of testing?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      @Axtremus said in rt.live:

      About a week~10 days ago, we got down to only two states having R values above 1.

      As of this morning, there are nine states with R values above 1.

      I've noticed that trend as well.

      Do you think it has anything to do with "re-opening," or is it a factor of having more positives because of testing?

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      Loki
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      #29

      @George-K said in rt.live:

      @Axtremus said in rt.live:

      About a week~10 days ago, we got down to only two states having R values above 1.

      As of this morning, there are nine states with R values above 1.

      I've noticed that trend as well.

      Do you think it has anything to do with "re-opening," or is it a factor of having more positives because of testing?

      It’s going to spread as we open up. I don’t think there are any people disallusioned about that fact.

      We are just beginning to seethe economic pain.... the real layoffs are just starting. Stark choices ahead.

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      • L Loki

        @Axtremus said in rt.live:

        About a week~10 days ago, we got down to only two states having R values above 1.

        As of this morning, there are nine states with R values above 1.

        Is the goal to keep the R value below 1? It’s going to spread as we open up. Do you want to keep the country in lockdown?

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        #30

        @Loki said in rt.live:

        Is the goal to keep the R value below 1?

        The goal was to flatten the curve.

        We did that weeks ago.

        Mission accomplished.

        Since then the goal depends mostly on your hate level for the president.

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        • AxtremusA Away
          AxtremusA Away
          Axtremus
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          #31

          Rt.live not looking good. Might want to sit down before refreshing that rt.live page.

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #32

            Looks great to me. Virtually unchanged since last week and generally better than last month.

            The Brad

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            • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              So much for it not liking the warm weather

              I was only joking

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                Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  https://www.covidexitstrategy.org/?fbclid=IwAR0D5cxJx_DATlLFfSAj21Fi7h64-lu7TwvNCW5fLpfne9u5dos2FuFKnCE

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    @Jolly said in rt.live:

                    Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.

                    Flattening the curve doesn't seem to be working for a lot of the country. Not particularly surprising when you see how everybody is behaving.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Jolly said in rt.live:

                      Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.

                      Flattening the curve doesn't seem to be working for a lot of the country. Not particularly surprising when you see how everybody is behaving.

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                      George K
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                      #37

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:

                      @Jolly said in rt.live:

                      Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.

                      Flattening the curve doesn't seem to be working for a lot of the country. Not particularly surprising when you see how everybody is behaving.

                      "Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.

                      I haven't read anything about hospitals and ICUs being overwhelmed, turning patients away in the last 5-6 weeks. Have you?

                      If not, the "flattening" has worked. If you want to talk about infection rates, that's another discussion.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:

                        @Jolly said in rt.live:

                        Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.

                        Flattening the curve doesn't seem to be working for a lot of the country. Not particularly surprising when you see how everybody is behaving.

                        "Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.

                        I haven't read anything about hospitals and ICUs being overwhelmed, turning patients away in the last 5-6 weeks. Have you?

                        If not, the "flattening" has worked. If you want to talk about infection rates, that's another discussion.

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                        @George-K said in rt.live:

                        "Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.

                        Exactly. Suddenly everyone is moving the goalpost. It would be great if we could stop the spread completely, but the cost is likely too high, and that wasn’t the goal in the first place.

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                          Copper
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                          #39

                          Thank you

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                          • George KG George K

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:

                            @Jolly said in rt.live:

                            Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.

                            Flattening the curve doesn't seem to be working for a lot of the country. Not particularly surprising when you see how everybody is behaving.

                            "Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.

                            I haven't read anything about hospitals and ICUs being overwhelmed, turning patients away in the last 5-6 weeks. Have you?

                            If not, the "flattening" has worked. If you want to talk about infection rates, that's another discussion.

                            Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            #40

                            @George-K said in rt.live:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:

                            @Jolly said in rt.live:

                            Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.

                            Flattening the curve doesn't seem to be working for a lot of the country. Not particularly surprising when you see how everybody is behaving.

                            "Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.

                            I haven't read anything about hospitals and ICUs being overwhelmed, turning patients away in the last 5-6 weeks. Have you?

                            If not, the "flattening" has worked. If you want to talk about infection rates, that's another discussion.

                            Unfortunately I think that one thing will lead inevitably to the other. I don't see how a high infection rate is sustainable without overwhelming the local hospitals. I'd love to be wrong.

                            I was only joking

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                            • KlausK Klaus

                              @George-K said in rt.live:

                              "Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.

                              Exactly. Suddenly everyone is moving the goalpost. It would be great if we could stop the spread completely, but the cost is likely too high, and that wasn’t the goal in the first place.

                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              #41

                              @Klaus said in rt.live:

                              @George-K said in rt.live:

                              "Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.

                              Exactly. Suddenly everyone is moving the goalpost. It would be great if we could stop the spread completely, but the cost is likely too high, and that wasn’t the goal in the first place.

                              The 'behavior' I was referring to was protests, political rallies, massive groups of people congregating at the beach. The cost of not doing those things is not too high IMHO.

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @George-K said in rt.live:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:

                                @Jolly said in rt.live:

                                Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.

                                Flattening the curve doesn't seem to be working for a lot of the country. Not particularly surprising when you see how everybody is behaving.

                                "Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.

                                I haven't read anything about hospitals and ICUs being overwhelmed, turning patients away in the last 5-6 weeks. Have you?

                                If not, the "flattening" has worked. If you want to talk about infection rates, that's another discussion.

                                Unfortunately I think that one thing will lead inevitably to the other. I don't see how a high infection rate is sustainable without overwhelming the local hospitals. I'd love to be wrong.

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                                George K
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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:

                                @George-K said in rt.live:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:

                                @Jolly said in rt.live:

                                Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.

                                Flattening the curve doesn't seem to be working for a lot of the country. Not particularly surprising when you see how everybody is behaving.

                                "Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.

                                I haven't read anything about hospitals and ICUs being overwhelmed, turning patients away in the last 5-6 weeks. Have you?

                                If not, the "flattening" has worked. If you want to talk about infection rates, that's another discussion.

                                Unfortunately I think that one thing will lead inevitably to the other. I don't see how a high infection rate is sustainable without overwhelming the local hospitals. I'd love to be wrong.

                                Sadly, you're right.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @George-K said in rt.live:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:

                                  @Jolly said in rt.live:

                                  Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.

                                  Flattening the curve doesn't seem to be working for a lot of the country. Not particularly surprising when you see how everybody is behaving.

                                  "Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.

                                  I haven't read anything about hospitals and ICUs being overwhelmed, turning patients away in the last 5-6 weeks. Have you?

                                  If not, the "flattening" has worked. If you want to talk about infection rates, that's another discussion.

                                  Unfortunately I think that one thing will lead inevitably to the other. I don't see how a high infection rate is sustainable without overwhelming the local hospitals. I'd love to be wrong.

                                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  #43

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:

                                  @George-K said in rt.live:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:

                                  @Jolly said in rt.live:

                                  Flatten the curve, not eradicate the virus. It's always been about not overwhelming the medical system.

                                  Flattening the curve doesn't seem to be working for a lot of the country. Not particularly surprising when you see how everybody is behaving.

                                  "Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.

                                  I haven't read anything about hospitals and ICUs being overwhelmed, turning patients away in the last 5-6 weeks. Have you?

                                  If not, the "flattening" has worked. If you want to talk about infection rates, that's another discussion.

                                  Unfortunately I think that one thing will lead inevitably to the other. I don't see how a high infection rate is sustainable without overwhelming the local hospitals. I'd love to be wrong.

                                  What do you define as "high" and over how long of a period of time?

                                  Virginia is adding on 500 cases a day, and we are being told that is quite manageable for a long time. On April 22nd we were adding on 600 cases a day and it was the apocalypse...

                                  The Brad

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @Klaus said in rt.live:

                                    @George-K said in rt.live:

                                    "Flattening the Curve" was all about not overwhelming the healthcare facilities, not about reducing mortality or infection rates.

                                    Exactly. Suddenly everyone is moving the goalpost. It would be great if we could stop the spread completely, but the cost is likely too high, and that wasn’t the goal in the first place.

                                    The 'behavior' I was referring to was protests, political rallies, massive groups of people congregating at the beach. The cost of not doing those things is not too high IMHO.

                                    KlausK Offline
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                                    Klaus
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                                    #44

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in rt.live:

                                    The 'behavior' I was referring to was protests, political rallies, massive groups of people congregating at the beach. The cost of not doing those things is not too high IMHO.

                                    I agree about the beach, and I also agree about the current protests and rallies. However, that doesn't mean that the costs of all protests are too high. There are some political causes that are worth some risk.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                      #45

                                      Hypothetically, there's always something worth putting people at risk over. For some people, it's defending against the Nazi hordes, for others it's getting childcare 250 miles away and visiting a historic monument to "test their eyesight".

                                      I was only joking

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                                        For some reason I cannot think of any political cause at the moment worth that risk. Colour me complacent.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Black lives have been considered worthless for all of America’s history. If white people die of COVID due to the BLM protests, well, good.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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