Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election
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@horace said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@moonbat said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly And I think you overestimate him.
Yes, so did Hilary.
Guess Biden didn't
So many people on the left talk about the fly-over rubes who form the base of Trump while never, ever, commenting on the violent mobs of lower class poor hopeless people who give them the voting edge in election after election. Their crop. Own that destruction of humanity, you useless sociopaths and/or ignoramuses. At least the fly-over rubes are born to a world of opportunity. That's more than can be said of your crop. Own it.
Hold on there Horace. I don't identify as left (in fact I'm fairly dubious of 'identifying' with much of anything) and I don't think I have a crop atleast not one I know of. Other than this den of inequity in most political discussions I'm typically arguing against the current illiberal-lefty political zeitgeist. To be honest I don't quite understand what you're saying but I think we would agree that rubbishing the large numbers of people who voted for popularist movements like Trump/Brexit is a terrible mistake. That the causes that underlie these movements run deep and are meaningful, and that weaponised cultural superiority is a very dangerous force.
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@moonbat said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@horace said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@moonbat said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly And I think you overestimate him.
Yes, so did Hilary.
Guess Biden didn't
So many people on the left talk about the fly-over rubes who form the base of Trump while never, ever, commenting on the violent mobs of lower class poor hopeless people who give them the voting edge in election after election. Their crop. Own that destruction of humanity, you useless sociopaths and/or ignoramuses. At least the fly-over rubes are born to a world of opportunity. That's more than can be said of your crop. Own it.
Hold on there Horace. I don't identify as left (in fact I'm fairly dubious of 'identifying' with much of anything) and I don't think I have a crop atleast not one I know of. Other than this den of inequity in most political discussions I'm typically arguing against the current illiberal-lefty political zeitgeist. To be honest I don't quite understand what you're saying but I think we would agree that rubbishing the large numbers of people who voted for popularist movements like Trump/Brexit is a terrible mistake. That the causes that underlie these movements run deep and are meaningful, and that weaponised cultural superiority is a very dangerous force.
Sure. Of course I respect you Moonbat. Sorry to have used your words on a riff that didn't really apply to you.
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@doctor-phibes said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
A better deal might be to allow some of the more civilised bits to be annexed by Canada.
If you want California, I think they're available.
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@horace said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@doctor-phibes said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
A better deal might be to allow some of the more civilised bits to be annexed by Canada.
If you want California, I think they're available.
What did Canada ever do to you to warrant such a suggestion?
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@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I went to Canada once. I wouldn't go back there if you gave me the jet plane I got there in.
Yes I recall the yarn you once wrote about your experience at the hands Customs officials when you tried to enter this sovereign nation. I am sure though they had their own good reasons to heap bureaucratic and officious persecution on you and your party. Not unlike the welcome many of us, unenfranchised stakeholders, receive when we enter your brightly spangled republic.
Not to worry though, if I had my way I would make certain that certain active posters in this forum would require entry visas to visit this country. In that way we can ensure that good bilateral relations are maintained at all levels.
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@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@horace Don't insult me, I'm a Leninist,....a Leninist?
Er, I meant to write, Lennonist.
Yes, a Lennonist! Imagine that, eh? Goo goo kachoo.
Yeah, well, once I figure that one out, I'll try to figure out what a Trotskyite is. Trotskiyite. Trotsky-ite. Trotskite. Whatever, if ya can't even spell it, might as well forget it.
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@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Once you have that down we can work on a what a Groucho Marxist might be.
Presumably he's a Marxist who refuses to join his own party.
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@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I went to Canada once. I wouldn't go back there if you gave me the jet plane I got there in.
Yes I recall the yarn you once wrote about your experience at the hands Customs officials when you tried to enter this sovereign nation. I am sure though they had their own good reasons to heap bureaucratic and officious persecution on you and your party. Not unlike the welcome many of us, unenfranchised stakeholders, receive when we enter your brightly spangled republic.
Not to worry though, if I had my way I would make certain that certain active posters in this forum would require entry visas to visit this country. In that way we can ensure that good bilateral relations are maintained at all levels.
I had a Canadian friend who worked at a border crossing near Gananoque. He said the number of hand-guns and assorted firearms he confiscated from disappointed Yanks attempting to enter the country was staggering. Presumably, they felt that the mean streets of rural Ontario were not safe to traverse unless you were armed to the teeth.
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Pence signed on:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/02/us/politics/gop-senators-josh-hawley-election.html
“WASHINGTON — Vice President Mike Pence signaled support on Saturday for a futile Republican bid to overturn the election in Congress next week, after 11 Republican senators and senators-elect said that they would vote to reject President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory when the House and Senate meet to formally certify it.”
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@axtremus said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Pence signed on:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/02/us/politics/gop-senators-josh-hawley-election.html
“WASHINGTON — Vice President Mike Pence signaled support on Saturday for a futile Republican bid to overturn the election in Congress next week, after 11 Republican senators and senators-elect said that they would vote to reject President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory when the House and Senate meet to formally certify it.”
How do they know it's "futile" ?
You democrat/ lefties are so easily led. Lol
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@doctor-phibes said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I went to Canada once. I wouldn't go back there if you gave me the jet plane I got there in.
Yes I recall the yarn you once wrote about your experience at the hands Customs officials when you tried to enter this sovereign nation. I am sure though they had their own good reasons to heap bureaucratic and officious persecution on you and your party. Not unlike the welcome many of us, unenfranchised stakeholders, receive when we enter your brightly spangled republic.
Not to worry though, if I had my way I would make certain that certain active posters in this forum would require entry visas to visit this country. In that way we can ensure that good bilateral relations are maintained at all levels.
I had a Canadian friend who worked at a border crossing near Gananoque. He said the number of hand-guns and assorted firearms he confiscated from disappointed Yanks attempting to enter the country was staggering. Presumably, they felt that the mean streets of rural Ontario were not safe to traverse unless you were armed to the teeth.
Citizens vs. Subjects.
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@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@doctor-phibes said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I went to Canada once. I wouldn't go back there if you gave me the jet plane I got there in.
Yes I recall the yarn you once wrote about your experience at the hands Customs officials when you tried to enter this sovereign nation. I am sure though they had their own good reasons to heap bureaucratic and officious persecution on you and your party. Not unlike the welcome many of us, unenfranchised stakeholders, receive when we enter your brightly spangled republic.
Not to worry though, if I had my way I would make certain that certain active posters in this forum would require entry visas to visit this country. In that way we can ensure that good bilateral relations are maintained at all levels.
I had a Canadian friend who worked at a border crossing near Gananoque. He said the number of hand-guns and assorted firearms he confiscated from disappointed Yanks attempting to enter the country was staggering. Presumably, they felt that the mean streets of rural Ontario were not safe to traverse unless you were armed to the teeth.
Citizens vs. Subjects.
Actually, the people having the guns taken off them were American citizens. The Canadian citizens had decided in their free and fair elections, something you claim not to have in the US, that they felt safer if all the yanks were disarmed.
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@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@rainman Actually it's a Trotskyist.
Once you have that down we can work on a what a Groucho Marxist might be.
Let's not be picking on Canada here. Most of my relatives are there.
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@axtremus said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Pence signed on:
In defense of my thread title, he signed on to the senators trying. There was an effort to get him to try to overturn our democratic results unilaterally which he is still not on board with.
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@mik said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Let's not be picking on Canada here. Most of my relatives are there.
You're saying they've already suffered enough?