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We’ve really failed the nursing home patients

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 21:00 last edited by
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    20% of the fatalities from COVID-19 are patients quarantined in nursing homes. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/us/coronavirus-nursing-homes.html

    The Brad

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      Jolly
      wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 21:03 last edited by Jolly
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      Very susceptible patient population.

      Not to mention the quality of staff or the fact that nursing home staff will often work multiple nursing homes, because of hours and pay.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

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      • J Jolly
        19 Apr 2020, 21:03

        Very susceptible patient population.

        Not to mention the quality of staff or the fact that nursing home staff will often work multiple nursing homes, because of hours and pay.

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        Mik
        wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 21:04 last edited by
        #3

        I can see why one might think we have let them down, but what were the alternatives?

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 21:04 last edited by
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          I'm really worried about by mum. She went into a nursing home right before Covid struck with her broken hip. They locked down before the rest of the country, but it's clearly not a good place to be.

          I was only joking

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            Mik
            wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 21:08 last edited by
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            I hope she fares well, Phibes.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              mark
              wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 21:26 last edited by
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              MIL has been in an assisted living facility since mid to late January. They have been on lockdown since the beginning of March. No reported cases in her facility, so we are optimistic.

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                Loki
                wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 21:35 last edited by
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                20% sounds low. Once you get to the nursing home it get so much higher because these people are generally dying and COVID may truly be the cause but in reality maybe advanced it by a couple of months.

                The problem with assisted living is you have to figure out how to keep the workers from bringing it in and these workers are not well paid and the turnover can approach 50%

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                • M mark
                  19 Apr 2020, 21:26

                  MIL has been in an assisted living facility since mid to late January. They have been on lockdown since the beginning of March. No reported cases in her facility, so we are optimistic.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 21:38 last edited by
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                  @mark said in We’ve really failed the nursing home patients:

                  MIL has been in an assisted living facility since mid to late January. They have been on lockdown since the beginning of March. No reported cases in her facility, so we are optimistic.

                  Same here, except she's been in for about three years so far.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • M Mik
                    19 Apr 2020, 21:38

                    @mark said in We’ve really failed the nursing home patients:

                    MIL has been in an assisted living facility since mid to late January. They have been on lockdown since the beginning of March. No reported cases in her facility, so we are optimistic.

                    Same here, except she's been in for about three years so far.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 22:52 last edited by
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                    @Mik said in We’ve really failed the nursing home patients:

                    @mark said in We’ve really failed the nursing home patients:

                    MIL has been in an assisted living facility since mid to late January. They have been on lockdown since the beginning of March. No reported cases in her facility, so we are optimistic.

                    Same here, except she's been in for about three years so far.

                    Same here, except about a year now.

                    They had one case and got them right out of the building and isolated.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 22:59 last edited by
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                      My FIL is in one, since the fall.

                      Last I heard they had them quarantined to their own rooms. Hard to think about.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • M Mik
                        19 Apr 2020, 21:04

                        I can see why one might think we have let them down, but what were the alternatives?

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 23:42 last edited by
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                        @Mik said in We’ve really failed the nursing home patients:

                        I can see why one might think we have let them down, but what were the alternatives?

                        If you’re going to lock them in to the point of excluding any and all visitors, then they needed to ensure that they were locking the virus out, not locking them in. Much heavier screening of staff, and patients, and once staff was screened, they should have maintained a quarantine for that staff.

                        The Brad

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 23:54 last edited by Mik
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                          With a virus that can spread asymtomatically? How were they to do that? Do you know they did not take the steps they could? Simply not possible to quarantine staff.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • M Mik
                            19 Apr 2020, 23:54

                            With a virus that can spread asymtomatically? How were they to do that? Do you know they did not take the steps they could? Simply not possible to quarantine staff.

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