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Bad news about the new UK variant

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #11

    Found it in San Diego too.

    Neither the CA nor CO cases were people who had traveled.

    So it’s in the community, probably all over. We just haven’t looked enough yet

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      jon-nyc
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      #12

      Florida, also guy with no travel history.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        Evidence is that it's no more deadly than the other strains. But, if it's more infectious, that's not a good thing, to be sure.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          jon-nyc
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          #14

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/01/now-coronavirus-variant-us-since-october

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/01/now-coronavirus-variant-us-since-october

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            Loki
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            #15

            I definitely recall several months ago several articles that discussed a more infectious strain. I took interest in it wondering if it had a different mortality rate. Then, it disappeared from the news and now is back with a vengeance.

            I agree it’s likely widespread by now.

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            • George KG George K

              Evidence is that it's no more deadly than the other strains. But, if it's more infectious, that's not a good thing, to be sure.

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              jon-nyc
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              #16

              @george-k said in Bad news about the new UK variant:

              Evidence is that it's no more deadly than the other strains. But, if it's more infectious, that's not a good thing, to be sure.

              Bach posted about a model showing that 50% higher R0 would result in more deaths than a 50% increase in IFR.

              Makes sense, since death rate is linear and R0 is exponential.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @george-k said in Bad news about the new UK variant:

                Evidence is that it's no more deadly than the other strains. But, if it's more infectious, that's not a good thing, to be sure.

                Bach posted about a model showing that 50% higher R0 would result in more deaths than a 50% increase in IFR.

                Makes sense, since death rate is linear and R0 is exponential.

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                @jon-nyc https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/12/virus-mutation-catastrophe/617531/

                To understand the difference between exponential and linear risks, consider an example put forth by Adam Kucharski, a professor at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine who focuses on mathematical analyses of infectious-disease outbreaks. Kucharski compares a 50 percent increase in virus lethality to a 50 percent increase in virus transmissibility. Take a virus reproduction rate of about 1.1 and an infection fatality risk of 0.8 percent and imagine 10,000 active infections—a plausible scenario for many European cities, as Kucharski notes. As things stand, with those numbers, we’d expect 129 deaths in a month. If the fatality rate increased by 50 percent, that would lead to 193 deaths. In contrast, a 50 percent increase in transmissibility would lead to a whopping 978 deaths in just one month—assuming, in both scenarios, a six-day infection-generation time.

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                  Renauda
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                  #18

                  Just came across this article about a mutation found in South Africa:

                  https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-19-vaccine-south-africa-variant-1.5860585

                  Anyone have more details?

                  Elbows up!

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #19

                    Funny my son mentioned it last night. I meant to look it up today.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Renauda
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                      There seem to be a lot of media articles, but all seem for general public consumption.

                      Elbows up!

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                        #21

                        Viruses gotta virus.

                        What did y'all expect?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Renauda
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                          #22

                          It's a given that it would mutate. No surprise. Why do you ask?

                          Elbows up!

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                            Horace
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                            #23

                            We all host mutations every day. Viruses are so small though, a mutation can change them drastically.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Jolly
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                              #24

                              I didn't ask. It's a rhetorical device pointing out the obvious...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Renauda
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                                Oh, I see.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  It's fighting back!

                                  The Brad

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    Joy.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Joy.

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                                      George K
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                                      @jon-nyc I saw that earlier.

                                      I wonder if it's transmission from an outside source or more "evolution" of the virus.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        #29

                                        When those War of the Worlds Martians get here we'll have plenty of ammo

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                                          When those War of the Worlds Martians get here we'll have plenty of ammo

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                                          @copper We’ve just got to plant a few anti-maskers within them.

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