Vaccine Rollout
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wrote on 24 Jan 2021, 23:42 last edited by
Whatever happened to "my body, my choice"?
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wrote on 25 Jan 2021, 00:09 last edited by Loki
@jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:
Whatever happened to "my body, my choice"?
Doesn’t trump jobs and a functioning economy. We don’t all just march off a cliff like lemmings.
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@jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:
Whatever happened to "my body, my choice"?
Doesn’t trump jobs and a functioning economy. We don’t all just march off a cliff like lemmings.
wrote on 25 Jan 2021, 00:12 last edited by@loki said in Vaccine Rollout:
@jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:
Whatever happened to "my body, my choice"?
Doesn’t trump jobs and a functioning economy. We don’t all just march off a cliff like lemmings.
Dude, if it's good enough for a premeditated killing, it's good enough for any individual choice.
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wrote on 25 Jan 2021, 01:09 last edited by
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Aqua's points are well-taken, and well-explained.
But...
Here's what gets me: The "science" isn't "science" - yet. For now, and probably for the next year, it's all guesswork based on past experience which, as we've seen, is irrelevant. Making huge policy decisions driven by what is really no better than a hunch suggested by previous experience is dangerous. The scientific method is not being applied here, it's all retrospective and guesses.
We won't know shit about this for a long, long time.
Do masks work? I dunno - I see so much contradictory information. Do I wear one? Yeah (while avoiding people with cloth masks).
We Just. Don't. Know.
wrote on 25 Jan 2021, 01:13 last edited by@george-k said in Vaccine Rollout:
Making huge policy decisions driven by what is really no better than a hunch suggested by previous experience is dangerous.
I don't disagree. But are you suggesting we do nothing until we have ten-year cohort studies? I doubt you are.
At some point, we gotta make educated guesses. By all means let's debate how good they've been so far, because we've screwed up plenty. But making educated guesses is the best we can do for now.
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wrote on 25 Jan 2021, 01:23 last edited by
The rna platform has been around since 1989 (32 years!!). This was no overnight sensation. Read up on the history to feel better about how much effort and testing went into what we have today.
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wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 15:14 last edited by Axtremus
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/29/health/covid-vaccine-johnson-and-johnson-variants.html
Johnson & Johnson vaccine has significantly reduced effective rates in places with new SARS-CoV-2 variants, but still remain fairly effective at reducing the severity of symptoms for those who contracted COVID-19 after vaccination.
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I've seen 5 former colleagues, nurses with whom I worked, etc post on FB that they've been vaccinated.
That's good.
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 16:00 last edited byMy first take of J&J effectiveness at 68% was oh that’s not sogreat but preventing 100% of hospitalizations and deaths is awesome. So for me it’s an unmitigated success if this data holds up.
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My first take of J&J effectiveness at 68% was oh that’s not sogreat but preventing 100% of hospitalizations and deaths is awesome. So for me it’s an unmitigated success if this data holds up.
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 18:16 last edited by@loki said in Vaccine Rollout:
My first take of J&J effectiveness at 68% was oh that’s not sogreat but preventing 100% of hospitalizations and deaths is awesome. So for me it’s an unmitigated success if this data holds up.
I had the exact same response, in that order.
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@loki said in Vaccine Rollout:
My first take of J&J effectiveness at 68% was oh that’s not sogreat but preventing 100% of hospitalizations and deaths is awesome. So for me it’s an unmitigated success if this data holds up.
I had the exact same response, in that order.
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 19:27 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Vaccine Rollout:
@loki said in Vaccine Rollout:
My first take of J&J effectiveness at 68% was oh that’s not sogreat but preventing 100% of hospitalizations and deaths is awesome. So for me it’s an unmitigated success if this data holds up.
I had the exact same response, in that order.
I wonder what the timeframe was for the 68%? The small scale study a few weeks back showed a lower number over the first few weeks, but 100% efficacy after 51 days... I wonder if the slower antibody development time is affecting the numbers?
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wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 19:49 last edited by
I don't want the J&J. At my age I need the better vaccines.
Give the J&J to people that are young, go to gyms, in good health and eat spinach. -
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 22:52 last edited by
I make my own anti-bodies.
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wrote on 30 Jan 2021, 22:30 last edited by
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wrote on 3 May 2021, 11:29 last edited by
Report on COVID-19 vaccine waste. CDC statistics says there have been fewer than 200k doses wasted. Seeing that across the USA have already administered over 200 million doses, the waste rate is well under 0.1%. Most of that waste were attributed to CVS and Walgreen’s earlier efforts to inoculate seniors in care facilities.
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wrote on 4 May 2021, 15:53 last edited by
Beer for Vaccination:
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/jersey-offers-free-beer-residents-vaccinated/story?id=77467896“A vaccination card will be the ticket for a free brewski in the Garden State this month.
New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy announced a "Shot and a Beer” program Monday that provides a free glass of beer at participating locations to anyone over 21 who gets their first vaccination dose this month. The plan is part of Murphy's multipronged approach to increasing the state's vaccination numbers and reach its goal of 4.7 million residents vaccinated by the end of June.”
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wrote on 4 May 2021, 16:10 last edited by
Cute but dumb... Everybody keeps telling me that it’s the religious right not getting vaccinated... Well a free beer won’t have much effect, there...
The Brad
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Report on COVID-19 vaccine waste. CDC statistics says there have been fewer than 200k doses wasted. Seeing that across the USA have already administered over 200 million doses, the waste rate is well under 0.1%. Most of that waste were attributed to CVS and Walgreen’s earlier efforts to inoculate seniors in care facilities.
wrote on 4 May 2021, 16:24 last edited by@axtremus said in Vaccine Rollout:
Report on COVID-19 vaccine waste. CDC statistics says there have been fewer than 200k doses wasted. Seeing that across the USA have already administered over 200 million doses, the waste rate is well under 0.1%. Most of that waste were attributed to CVS and Walgreen’s earlier efforts to inoculate seniors in care facilities.
I think the article is unhelpful. Is there anyone, anywhere who thought this would all be handled flawlessly?
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Cute but dumb... Everybody keeps telling me that it’s the religious right not getting vaccinated... Well a free beer won’t have much effect, there...
wrote on 4 May 2021, 16:26 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Vaccine Rollout:
Cute but dumb... Everybody keeps telling me that it’s the religious right not getting vaccinated... Well a free beer won’t have much effect, there...
Dude, it‘s part of a multipronged approach to get more people vaccianted. The state also engages religious organizations as part of its vaccination outreach effort. Besides, it’s New Jersey, the “religiuos right” is not exactly a big population there.
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wrote on 4 May 2021, 16:31 last edited by
It’s time to get the vaccines into the hands of Primary Care Physicians. These are people’s trusted doctors who can talk to these hesitant people individually.
The Brad
