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Vaccine Rollout

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  • L Loki

    My first take of J&J effectiveness at 68% was oh that’s not sogreat but preventing 100% of hospitalizations and deaths is awesome. So for me it’s an unmitigated success if this data holds up.

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    Aqua Letifer
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    @loki said in Vaccine Rollout:

    My first take of J&J effectiveness at 68% was oh that’s not sogreat but preventing 100% of hospitalizations and deaths is awesome. So for me it’s an unmitigated success if this data holds up.

    I had the exact same response, in that order. 😄

    Please love yourself.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @loki said in Vaccine Rollout:

      My first take of J&J effectiveness at 68% was oh that’s not sogreat but preventing 100% of hospitalizations and deaths is awesome. So for me it’s an unmitigated success if this data holds up.

      I had the exact same response, in that order. 😄

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      LuFins Dad
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      @aqua-letifer said in Vaccine Rollout:

      @loki said in Vaccine Rollout:

      My first take of J&J effectiveness at 68% was oh that’s not sogreat but preventing 100% of hospitalizations and deaths is awesome. So for me it’s an unmitigated success if this data holds up.

      I had the exact same response, in that order. 😄

      I wonder what the timeframe was for the 68%? The small scale study a few weeks back showed a lower number over the first few weeks, but 100% efficacy after 51 days... I wonder if the slower antibody development time is affecting the numbers?

      The Brad

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        Rainman
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        I don't want the J&J. At my age I need the better vaccines.
        Give the J&J to people that are young, go to gyms, in good health and eat spinach.

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          Copper
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          I make my own anti-bodies.

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            George K
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            We're #47!

            https://www.shawlocal.com/news/state/2021/01/29/pritzker-pushes-back-on-criticisms-of-states-covid-19-vaccine-rollout/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1611931884

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
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              #48

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                https://khn.org/news/article/cvs-and-walgreens-have-wasted-more-vaccine-doses-than-most-states-combined/

                Report on COVID-19 vaccine waste. CDC statistics says there have been fewer than 200k doses wasted. Seeing that across the USA have already administered over 200 million doses, the waste rate is well under 0.1%. Most of that waste were attributed to CVS and Walgreen’s earlier efforts to inoculate seniors in care facilities.

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                  Beer for Vaccination:
                  https://abcnews.go.com/Health/jersey-offers-free-beer-residents-vaccinated/story?id=77467896

                  “A vaccination card will be the ticket for a free brewski in the Garden State this month.

                  New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy announced a "Shot and a Beer” program Monday that provides a free glass of beer at participating locations to anyone over 21 who gets their first vaccination dose this month. The plan is part of Murphy's multipronged approach to increasing the state's vaccination numbers and reach its goal of 4.7 million residents vaccinated by the end of June.”

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    Cute but dumb... Everybody keeps telling me that it’s the religious right not getting vaccinated... Well a free beer won’t have much effect, there...

                    The Brad

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      https://khn.org/news/article/cvs-and-walgreens-have-wasted-more-vaccine-doses-than-most-states-combined/

                      Report on COVID-19 vaccine waste. CDC statistics says there have been fewer than 200k doses wasted. Seeing that across the USA have already administered over 200 million doses, the waste rate is well under 0.1%. Most of that waste were attributed to CVS and Walgreen’s earlier efforts to inoculate seniors in care facilities.

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                      @axtremus said in Vaccine Rollout:

                      https://khn.org/news/article/cvs-and-walgreens-have-wasted-more-vaccine-doses-than-most-states-combined/

                      Report on COVID-19 vaccine waste. CDC statistics says there have been fewer than 200k doses wasted. Seeing that across the USA have already administered over 200 million doses, the waste rate is well under 0.1%. Most of that waste were attributed to CVS and Walgreen’s earlier efforts to inoculate seniors in care facilities.

                      I think the article is unhelpful. Is there anyone, anywhere who thought this would all be handled flawlessly?

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        Cute but dumb... Everybody keeps telling me that it’s the religious right not getting vaccinated... Well a free beer won’t have much effect, there...

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                        @lufins-dad said in Vaccine Rollout:

                        Cute but dumb... Everybody keeps telling me that it’s the religious right not getting vaccinated... Well a free beer won’t have much effect, there...

                        Dude, it‘s part of a multipronged approach to get more people vaccianted. The state also engages religious organizations as part of its vaccination outreach effort. Besides, it’s New Jersey, the “religiuos right” is not exactly a big population there.

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          It’s time to get the vaccines into the hands of Primary Care Physicians. These are people’s trusted doctors who can talk to these hesitant people individually.

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            Cute but dumb... Everybody keeps telling me that it’s the religious right not getting vaccinated... Well a free beer won’t have much effect, there...

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                            @lufins-dad said in Vaccine Rollout:

                            Cute but dumb... Everybody keeps telling me that it’s the religious right not getting vaccinated... Well a free beer won’t have much effect, there...

                            Maybe moonshine would work better?

                            I was only joking

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              It’s time to get the vaccines into the hands of Primary Care Physicians. These are people’s trusted doctors who can talk to these hesitant people individually.

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                              @lufins-dad said in Vaccine Rollout:

                              It’s time to get the vaccines into the hands of Primary Care Physicians. These are people’s trusted doctors who can talk to these hesitant people individually.

                              That's where I got mine last month.

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                                Loki
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                                Incentives are great, probably a gift card is the easiest to deploy.

                                Here’s your last chance for a carrot. Isolation should be next. Vaccine passport so can just move on and not rehash the BS nonsense.

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                                • L Loki

                                  Incentives are great, probably a gift card is the easiest to deploy.

                                  Here’s your last chance for a carrot. Isolation should be next. Vaccine passport so can just move on and not rehash the BS nonsense.

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                                  @loki said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                  Here’s your last chance for a carrot. Isolation should be next.

                                  Yep. These are the same shitbags who kept denying the reality of the pandemic while folks were dropping off in Italy faster than they could be carted away.

                                  Their stupidity is putting everyone around them at risk and contributing to the next variant problem. Fuck 'em.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • L Loki

                                    Incentives are great, probably a gift card is the easiest to deploy.

                                    Here’s your last chance for a carrot. Isolation should be next. Vaccine passport so can just move on and not rehash the BS nonsense.

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                                    Jolly
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                                    @loki said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                    Incentives are great, probably a gift card is the easiest to deploy.

                                    Here’s your last chance for a carrot. Isolation should be next. Vaccine passport so can just move on and not rehash the BS nonsense.

                                    Ain't gonna happen. Dream on.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      It’s time to get the vaccines into the hands of Primary Care Physicians. These are people’s trusted doctors who can talk to these hesitant people individually.

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                                      @lufins-dad said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                      It’s time to get the vaccines into the hands of Primary Care Physicians. These are people’s trusted doctors who can talk to these hesitant people individually.

                                      1. How many PCPs work out of a place that has a fridge good enough too store Pfizer vaccines at -70ºC? The Moderna one needs a fridge at -20ºC.

                                      2. Statistically, among those who have PCPs, they see their PCPs maybe once or twice a year. Half the people have their next "annual" visits scheduled more than six months out. (Heck, you might have better luck doing it via dental offices because those who have dental insurance usually get their teeth cleaned by a hygienist twice a year.)

                                      3. Many hospital systems, clinics, and PCP offices are already quite active in sending out communications advising their patients to get vaccinated. Beyond that, if you the PCP to talk one-on-one to individual patients, you would be bottle-necked by point 2. above.

                                      If there are PCP offices who can do it and want to do it, by all means let them get the vaccine kits and let them do it. But on the grand scheme of things I just don't see PCP offices as the most effective places to proactively distribute vaccines to.

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                                        Loki
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                                        #61

                                        We have an extended family member who wouldn’t get vaccinated, think young. We all told that person, that’s fine but don’t come around. That fixed it.

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                                          Copper
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                                          How many people do things that put others in danger?

                                          Let's get them all.

                                          Start by assessing the risk of each activity.

                                          Then simply sort.

                                          Don't forget to include riding a bicycle in the district.

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