Historic Russian hack uncovered
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@jon-nyc said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@taiwan_girl said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
President Trump has not spoken of it.
Must be fake news. Lol
Thought experiment - do you think if China or Iran had been the perpetrator Trump would have been silent about it this last week?
If this is as significant as it is being made out to be he definitely should NOT say anything.
I’ve seen it characterized as an act of war. That’s different than a rhetorical war.
@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@jon-nyc said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@taiwan_girl said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
President Trump has not spoken of it.
Must be fake news. Lol
Thought experiment - do you think if China or Iran had been the perpetrator Trump would have been silent about it this last week?
If this is as significant as it is being made out to be he definitely should NOT say anything.
I’ve seen it characterized as an act of war. That’s different than a rhetorical war.
It does not seem that President Trump is afraid to tweet on anything. I am actually surprised he has not said anything.
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I can’t wait to see what Biden is going to do about Russia. What do people here think he’s going to do? I mean you’ve had four years to dream about it. The answers ought to just be flowing now.
@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
I can’t wait to see what Biden is going to do about Russia. What do people here think he’s going to do? I mean you’ve had four years to dream about it. The answers ought to just be flowing now.
Anything is better than the moron that just contradicted his Sec of State’s comments from the night before (Pompeo said Russia did do it).
You know what would be better than Trump’s response? Anything.
Biden could go up on the podium and say “stop it Russia, that’s not nice” and that’d be better than this bullshit.
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@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
I can’t wait to see what Biden is going to do about Russia. What do people here think he’s going to do? I mean you’ve had four years to dream about it. The answers ought to just be flowing now.
Anything is better than the moron that just contradicted his Sec of State’s comments from the night before (Pompeo said Russia did do it).
You know what would be better than Trump’s response? Anything.
Biden could go up on the podium and say “stop it Russia, that’s not nice” and that’d be better than this bullshit.
@xenon said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
I can’t wait to see what Biden is going to do about Russia. What do people here think he’s going to do? I mean you’ve had four years to dream about it. The answers ought to just be flowing now.
Anything is better than the moron that just contradicted his Sec of State’s comments from the night before (Pompeo said Russia did do it).
You know what would be better than Trump’s response? Anything.
Biden could go up on the podium and say “stop it Russia, that’s not nice” and that’d be better than this bullshit.
That’s all you got? Seriously? Better get some answers soon because people have high expectations. Been bitching hard a long time. Maybe it’s time you get scared. Accountability time.
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@xenon said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
I can’t wait to see what Biden is going to do about Russia. What do people here think he’s going to do? I mean you’ve had four years to dream about it. The answers ought to just be flowing now.
Anything is better than the moron that just contradicted his Sec of State’s comments from the night before (Pompeo said Russia did do it).
You know what would be better than Trump’s response? Anything.
Biden could go up on the podium and say “stop it Russia, that’s not nice” and that’d be better than this bullshit.
That’s all you got? Seriously? Better get some answers soon because people have high expectations. Been bitching hard a long time. Maybe it’s time you get scared. Accountability time.
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@xenon said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
I can’t wait to see what Biden is going to do about Russia. What do people here think he’s going to do? I mean you’ve had four years to dream about it. The answers ought to just be flowing now.
Anything is better than the moron that just contradicted his Sec of State’s comments from the night before (Pompeo said Russia did do it).
You know what would be better than Trump’s response? Anything.
Biden could go up on the podium and say “stop it Russia, that’s not nice” and that’d be better than this bullshit.
That’s all you got? Seriously? Better get some answers soon because people have high expectations. Been bitching hard a long time. Maybe it’s time you get scared. Accountability time.
@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@xenon said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
I can’t wait to see what Biden is going to do about Russia. What do people here think he’s going to do? I mean you’ve had four years to dream about it. The answers ought to just be flowing now.
Anything is better than the moron that just contradicted his Sec of State’s comments from the night before (Pompeo said Russia did do it).
You know what would be better than Trump’s response? Anything.
Biden could go up on the podium and say “stop it Russia, that’s not nice” and that’d be better than this bullshit.
That’s all you got? Seriously? Better get some answers soon because people have high expectations. Been bitching hard a long time. Maybe it’s time you get scared. Accountability time.
Huh? What do I need answers for?
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@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@xenon said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
I can’t wait to see what Biden is going to do about Russia. What do people here think he’s going to do? I mean you’ve had four years to dream about it. The answers ought to just be flowing now.
Anything is better than the moron that just contradicted his Sec of State’s comments from the night before (Pompeo said Russia did do it).
You know what would be better than Trump’s response? Anything.
Biden could go up on the podium and say “stop it Russia, that’s not nice” and that’d be better than this bullshit.
That’s all you got? Seriously? Better get some answers soon because people have high expectations. Been bitching hard a long time. Maybe it’s time you get scared. Accountability time.
Huh? What do I need answers for?
@xenon said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@xenon said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
I can’t wait to see what Biden is going to do about Russia. What do people here think he’s going to do? I mean you’ve had four years to dream about it. The answers ought to just be flowing now.
Anything is better than the moron that just contradicted his Sec of State’s comments from the night before (Pompeo said Russia did do it).
You know what would be better than Trump’s response? Anything.
Biden could go up on the podium and say “stop it Russia, that’s not nice” and that’d be better than this bullshit.
That’s all you got? Seriously? Better get some answers soon because people have high expectations. Been bitching hard a long time. Maybe it’s time you get scared. Accountability time.
Huh? What do I need answers for?
What should we do about Russia? It’s been the rant for over four years. Surely the ranters know what to do. I want a preview? Or do you not know and just complain?
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@renauda said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
Maybe its just Putin's way of saying "I'll miss you, Donushka".
Started when Trump was the likely winner of the election.
Espionage is a tradition in the world, in fact a feature. On the other hand if it’s an infrastructure attack it’s an act of war. Biden can’t do much about the former and has grave choices if it’s the latter. -
There goes Loki’s theory that he’s staying quiet due to the seriousness of the occasion.
Damn, it seemed so likely, too.
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@jon-nyc said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
There goes Loki’s theory that he’s staying quiet due to the seriousness of the occasion.
Damn, it seemed so likely, too.
See my reply. He just told us it’s garden variety yet effective espionage.
@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
He just told us it’s garden variety yet effective espionage.
https://nypost.com/2020/12/18/russian-hacked-networks-must-be-burned-down/
It’s going to take months to kick elite hackers widely believed to be Russian out of the U.S. government networks they have been quietly rifling through since as far back as March in Washington’s worst cyberespionage failure on record.
Experts say there simply are not enough skilled threat-hunting teams to identify all the government and private-sector systems that may have been hacked. FireEye, the cybersecurity company that discovered the worst-ever intrusion into U.S. agencies and was among the victims, has already tallied dozens of casualties. It’s racing to identify more.
“We have a serious problem. We don’t know what networks they are in, how deep they are, what access they have, what tools they left,” said Bruce Schneier, a prominent security expert and Harvard fellow.
It’s not clear exactly what the hackers were seeking, but experts say it could include nuclear secrets, blueprints for advanced weaponry and information for dossiers on key government and industry leaders.
Many federal workers — and others in the private sector — will now have to presume that unclassified networks are teeming with spies. Agencies will often have to conduct sensitive government business on Signal, WhatsApp and other encrypted smartphone apps.
“We should buckle up. This will be a long ride,” said Dmitri Alperovitch, co-founder and former chief technical officer of the leading cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike. “Cleanup is just phase one.”
The only way to be sure a network is clean is “to burn it down to the ground and rebuild it,” Schneier said.
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@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
He just told us it’s garden variety yet effective espionage.
https://nypost.com/2020/12/18/russian-hacked-networks-must-be-burned-down/
It’s going to take months to kick elite hackers widely believed to be Russian out of the U.S. government networks they have been quietly rifling through since as far back as March in Washington’s worst cyberespionage failure on record.
Experts say there simply are not enough skilled threat-hunting teams to identify all the government and private-sector systems that may have been hacked. FireEye, the cybersecurity company that discovered the worst-ever intrusion into U.S. agencies and was among the victims, has already tallied dozens of casualties. It’s racing to identify more.
“We have a serious problem. We don’t know what networks they are in, how deep they are, what access they have, what tools they left,” said Bruce Schneier, a prominent security expert and Harvard fellow.
It’s not clear exactly what the hackers were seeking, but experts say it could include nuclear secrets, blueprints for advanced weaponry and information for dossiers on key government and industry leaders.
Many federal workers — and others in the private sector — will now have to presume that unclassified networks are teeming with spies. Agencies will often have to conduct sensitive government business on Signal, WhatsApp and other encrypted smartphone apps.
“We should buckle up. This will be a long ride,” said Dmitri Alperovitch, co-founder and former chief technical officer of the leading cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike. “Cleanup is just phase one.”
The only way to be sure a network is clean is “to burn it down to the ground and rebuild it,” Schneier said.
@george-k said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
He just told us it’s garden variety yet effective espionage.
https://nypost.com/2020/12/18/russian-hacked-networks-must-be-burned-down/
It’s going to take months to kick elite hackers widely believed to be Russian out of the U.S. government networks they have been quietly rifling through since as far back as March in Washington’s worst cyberespionage failure on record.
Experts say there simply are not enough skilled threat-hunting teams to identify all the government and private-sector systems that may have been hacked. FireEye, the cybersecurity company that discovered the worst-ever intrusion into U.S. agencies and was among the victims, has already tallied dozens of casualties. It’s racing to identify more.
“We have a serious problem. We don’t know what networks they are in, how deep they are, what access they have, what tools they left,” said Bruce Schneier, a prominent security expert and Harvard fellow.
It’s not clear exactly what the hackers were seeking, but experts say it could include nuclear secrets, blueprints for advanced weaponry and information for dossiers on key government and industry leaders.
Many federal workers — and others in the private sector — will now have to presume that unclassified networks are teeming with spies. Agencies will often have to conduct sensitive government business on Signal, WhatsApp and other encrypted smartphone apps.
“We should buckle up. This will be a long ride,” said Dmitri Alperovitch, co-founder and former chief technical officer of the leading cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike. “Cleanup is just phase one.”
The only way to be sure a network is clean is “to burn it down to the ground and rebuild it,” Schneier said.
Well of course espionage is going to keep pace with the tools available. If you think we haven’t done the same or worse to Russia you are just kidding yourself. Even Obama was listening in on dear Angela.
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@renauda said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
Maybe its just Putin's way of saying "I'll miss you, Donushka".
Started when Trump was the likely winner of the election.
Espionage is a tradition in the world, in fact a feature. On the other hand if it’s an infrastructure attack it’s an act of war. Biden can’t do much about the former and has grave choices if it’s the latter.@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
Espionage is a tradition in the world, in fact a feature. On the other hand if it’s an infrastructure attack it’s an act of war. Biden can’t do much about the former and has grave choices if it’s the latter.
Espionage is easier
Spies are shot, everyone agrees
