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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Remember all the pissing and moaning about the logistics of the Trump Administration trying to deliver vaccines?

    Haven't seen any stories about major logistical foul-ups.

    Score another one for Trump...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      I’m no expert but I would imagine the real concern is the ‘last mile’, and problems won’t be apparent until it scales.

      You were warned.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        I’m no expert but I would imagine the real concern is the ‘last mile’, and problems won’t be apparent until it scales.

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        Loki
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        The initial rollout is so small there won’t be major issues. It’s downstream a bit.

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          Part of the scaling problems go away, as vaccines with less rigorous storage requirements are approved.

          I also suspect that problems of scale have already been addressed and while nothing this big works perfectly, I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Part of the scaling problems go away, as vaccines with less rigorous storage requirements are approved.

            I also suspect that problems of scale have already been addressed and while nothing this big works perfectly, I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

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            @jolly said in Logistics:

            Part of the scaling problems go away, as vaccines with less rigorous storage requirements are approved.

            I also suspect that problems of scale have already been addressed and while nothing this big works perfectly, I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

            I saw somewhere Jim Cramer predicting a vaccine glut by April. The key is to do this as fast as possible. To many in hospitals a fear is the tracking and compliance for the second shot. So it’s even possibly at a more granular level than states even.

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Part of the scaling problems go away, as vaccines with less rigorous storage requirements are approved.

              I also suspect that problems of scale have already been addressed and while nothing this big works perfectly, I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

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              jon-nyc
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              #6

              @jolly said in Logistics:

              I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

              Hopefully the new administration won’t view it as someone else’s problem

              You were warned.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @jolly said in Logistics:

                I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

                Hopefully the new administration won’t view it as someone else’s problem

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                @jon-nyc said in Logistics:

                @jolly said in Logistics:

                I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

                Hopefully the new administration won’t view it as someone else’s problem

                You can't micromanage the world. Remember, you were the Trump Dictator guy.

                Can't have it both ways...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  @jolly said in Logistics:

                  Part of the scaling problems go away, as vaccines with less rigorous storage requirements are approved.

                  I also suspect that problems of scale have already been addressed and while nothing this big works perfectly, I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

                  I saw somewhere Jim Cramer predicting a vaccine glut by April. The key is to do this as fast as possible. To many in hospitals a fear is the tracking and compliance for the second shot. So it’s even possibly at a more granular level than states even.

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                  @loki said in Logistics:

                  @jolly said in Logistics:

                  Part of the scaling problems go away, as vaccines with less rigorous storage requirements are approved.

                  I also suspect that problems of scale have already been addressed and while nothing this big works perfectly, I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

                  I saw somewhere Jim Cramer predicting a vaccine glut by April. The key is to do this as fast as possible. To many in hospitals a fear is the tracking and compliance for the second shot. So it’s even possibly at a more granular level than states even.

                  Here's a problem you haven't even thought of...What about the guys that work at multiple hospitals?

                  And what about agency healthcare?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Loki
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                    Indiana’s website crashed today, too many healthcare workers trying to schedule for the vaccine.

                    Great sign that the very conservative state of Mike Pence fame has such demand.

                    Maybe we can use AI to figure out where the anti-vaxxers are to focus our public health messages on them.

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                      First guy in our area got his shot yesterday. He was a sixty-something ED physician.

                      If I understood that hospital's roll-out, it was ED, Med ICU and Med-Surg. Age and comorbidities figured into allocation, with doctors ahead of nurses and other staff.

                      Made sense to me.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        First guy in our area got his shot yesterday. He was a sixty-something ED physician.

                        If I understood that hospital's roll-out, it was ED, Med ICU and Med-Surg. Age and comorbidities figured into allocation, with doctors ahead of nurses and other staff.

                        Made sense to me.

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                        jon-nyc
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                        @jolly said in Logistics:

                        He was a sixty-something ED physician.

                        You have special docs just to prescribe those blue pills?

                        You were warned.

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                        • MikM Away
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                          Wondered who would pick the low hanging fruit. 😆

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            Wondered who would pick the low hanging fruit. 😆

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                            @mik said in Logistics:

                            Wondered who would pick the low hanging fruit. 😆

                            You had to wonder?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Wondered who would pick the low hanging fruit. 😆

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                              @mik said in Logistics:

                              Wondered who would pick the low hanging fruit. 😆

                              Low hanging fruit is a rather unfortunate turn of phrase, all things considered.

                              I was only joking

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                                There's a gay comic named James Adomian who titled an album that way.

                                Education is extremely important.

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