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  • J jon-nyc
    15 Dec 2020, 11:52

    I’m no expert but I would imagine the real concern is the ‘last mile’, and problems won’t be apparent until it scales.

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    Loki
    wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 12:19 last edited by
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    The initial rollout is so small there won’t be major issues. It’s downstream a bit.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 13:10 last edited by
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      Part of the scaling problems go away, as vaccines with less rigorous storage requirements are approved.

      I also suspect that problems of scale have already been addressed and while nothing this big works perfectly, I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • J Jolly
        15 Dec 2020, 13:10

        Part of the scaling problems go away, as vaccines with less rigorous storage requirements are approved.

        I also suspect that problems of scale have already been addressed and while nothing this big works perfectly, I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

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        Loki
        wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 16:32 last edited by
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        @jolly said in Logistics:

        Part of the scaling problems go away, as vaccines with less rigorous storage requirements are approved.

        I also suspect that problems of scale have already been addressed and while nothing this big works perfectly, I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

        I saw somewhere Jim Cramer predicting a vaccine glut by April. The key is to do this as fast as possible. To many in hospitals a fear is the tracking and compliance for the second shot. So it’s even possibly at a more granular level than states even.

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        • J Jolly
          15 Dec 2020, 13:10

          Part of the scaling problems go away, as vaccines with less rigorous storage requirements are approved.

          I also suspect that problems of scale have already been addressed and while nothing this big works perfectly, I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 16:40 last edited by jon-nyc
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          @jolly said in Logistics:

          I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

          Hopefully the new administration won’t view it as someone else’s problem

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • J jon-nyc
            15 Dec 2020, 16:40

            @jolly said in Logistics:

            I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

            Hopefully the new administration won’t view it as someone else’s problem

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            Jolly
            wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 17:15 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Logistics:

            @jolly said in Logistics:

            I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

            Hopefully the new administration won’t view it as someone else’s problem

            You can't micromanage the world. Remember, you were the Trump Dictator guy.

            Can't have it both ways...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • L Loki
              15 Dec 2020, 16:32

              @jolly said in Logistics:

              Part of the scaling problems go away, as vaccines with less rigorous storage requirements are approved.

              I also suspect that problems of scale have already been addressed and while nothing this big works perfectly, I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

              I saw somewhere Jim Cramer predicting a vaccine glut by April. The key is to do this as fast as possible. To many in hospitals a fear is the tracking and compliance for the second shot. So it’s even possibly at a more granular level than states even.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 17:17 last edited by
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              @loki said in Logistics:

              @jolly said in Logistics:

              Part of the scaling problems go away, as vaccines with less rigorous storage requirements are approved.

              I also suspect that problems of scale have already been addressed and while nothing this big works perfectly, I do think distribution problems will occur on the state end, not the Fed's end.

              I saw somewhere Jim Cramer predicting a vaccine glut by April. The key is to do this as fast as possible. To many in hospitals a fear is the tracking and compliance for the second shot. So it’s even possibly at a more granular level than states even.

              Here's a problem you haven't even thought of...What about the guys that work at multiple hospitals?

              And what about agency healthcare?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Loki
                wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 18:52 last edited by
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                Indiana’s website crashed today, too many healthcare workers trying to schedule for the vaccine.

                Great sign that the very conservative state of Mike Pence fame has such demand.

                Maybe we can use AI to figure out where the anti-vaxxers are to focus our public health messages on them.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 19:34 last edited by
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                  First guy in our area got his shot yesterday. He was a sixty-something ED physician.

                  If I understood that hospital's roll-out, it was ED, Med ICU and Med-Surg. Age and comorbidities figured into allocation, with doctors ahead of nurses and other staff.

                  Made sense to me.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    15 Dec 2020, 19:34

                    First guy in our area got his shot yesterday. He was a sixty-something ED physician.

                    If I understood that hospital's roll-out, it was ED, Med ICU and Med-Surg. Age and comorbidities figured into allocation, with doctors ahead of nurses and other staff.

                    Made sense to me.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 20:22 last edited by
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                    @jolly said in Logistics:

                    He was a sixty-something ED physician.

                    You have special docs just to prescribe those blue pills?

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 20:35 last edited by
                      #12

                      Wondered who would pick the low hanging fruit. 😆

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • M Mik
                        15 Dec 2020, 20:35

                        Wondered who would pick the low hanging fruit. 😆

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 21:55 last edited by
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                        @mik said in Logistics:

                        Wondered who would pick the low hanging fruit. 😆

                        You had to wonder?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • M Mik
                          15 Dec 2020, 20:35

                          Wondered who would pick the low hanging fruit. 😆

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 22:14 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                          @mik said in Logistics:

                          Wondered who would pick the low hanging fruit. 😆

                          Low hanging fruit is a rather unfortunate turn of phrase, all things considered.

                          I was only joking

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 22:28 last edited by
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                            There's a gay comic named James Adomian who titled an album that way.

                            Education is extremely important.

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