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  • HoraceH Horace

    @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

    I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

    I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

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    Doctor Phibes
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    @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

    @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

    I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

    I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

    Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.

    I was only joking

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      You prefer everyone look the other way and pretend this isn't happening.

      But no, it's not trolling - it was a real question and the respondents treated it as such (even listed some examples from lower levels of government that I wasn't aware of, and Ludendorff which is interesting)

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      @jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

      ...and Ludendorff which is interesting

      I was curious about this so I looked it up.

      Ludendorff lost an election against Hinderburg, his former commander, in which he ran as a Nazi. He was shunned by Hitler and founded the Tannenbergbund.

      The Tannenbergbund soon developed as largely a circle of former officers who had served under Ludendorff in World War I.[4] In terms of ideology the Bund largely concentrated on those whom it opposed, attacking Freemasons, Jews, communists and Jesuits and accusing them of conspiracy.[5] Such people were lumped in together as "die überstaatlichen Mächte" or "the powers above the state".[6] The Bund became a prolific producer of conspiracy literature, although they were openly rejected by the growing Nazi movement, for whom some of the Bund's more wild ideas were even too fancifully conspiratorial.[7] Central also to their ideas was an occultist vision inspired by the Thule Society to which Ludendorff had been introduced by his wife. As such, the Bund presented history as a struggle between the Nordic hero and the three-way alliance of the Jew, Catholic and Freemason.[8] As a consequence, members of the Bund were expected to abandon Christianity and turn to the old Nordic gods.[9]

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        Doctor Phibes
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        Ludendorff went on to have a starring role in the well known Docu-drama Wonder Woman, so there's hope for Donald Trump, yet.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

          @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

          I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

          I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

          Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.

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          Horace
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          @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

          @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

          @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

          I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

          I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

          Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.

          If I think something, there's generally a specific reason that I'm willing to defend specifically.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

            The rest seems an over-specification of what the tweet actually said.

            From the tweet thread:

            The bribe, which she accepted, was then going to be used by members of the Obama administration against Hillary after she was elected. As it was later explained to him, “President Obama has his people across the federal bureaucracy at this point, but especially at the Department of Justice. Hillary Clinton is going to be President for 8 years and nothing is going to change that, but think of there being a Bunsen burner within the DOJ. That evidence about the [2] bribes you were a part of gathering is going to be sitting on the Bunsen burner. The hand sitting on the burner is going to be one of Barack Obama’s people.

            If Hillary is a “good girl” and defends Obamacare, that flame stays low. If she’s a “bad girl” and thinks for herself, that flame is going to get turned up high.

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            Horace
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            @jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

            @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

            The rest seems an over-specification of what the tweet actually said.

            From the tweet thread:

            The bribe, which she accepted, was then going to be used by members of the Obama administration against Hillary after she was elected. As it was later explained to him, “President Obama has his people across the federal bureaucracy at this point, but especially at the Department of Justice. Hillary Clinton is going to be President for 8 years and nothing is going to change that, but think of there being a Bunsen burner within the DOJ. That evidence about the [2] bribes you were a part of gathering is going to be sitting on the Bunsen burner. The hand sitting on the burner is going to be one of Barack Obama’s people.

            If Hillary is a “good girl” and defends Obamacare, that flame stays low. If she’s a “bad girl” and thinks for herself, that flame is going to get turned up high.

            Ok. But I know how effective the weaponization of "conspiracy crank" is, so I like to think twice every time it's thrown out by people who have an obvious political axe to grind, as the original tweeter does. Or, a personal axe to grind, like Phibes, because I disrespected the practice of quoting history, or believing that travel is a profound life accomplishment.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

              @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

              @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

              I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

              I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

              Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.

              If I think something, there's generally a specific reason that I'm willing to defend specifically.

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              @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

              @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

              @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

              @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

              I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

              I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

              Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.

              If I think something, there's generally a specific reason that I'm willing to defend specifically.

              And if you don't like or understand something, you sneer?

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

                I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

                Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.

                If I think something, there's generally a specific reason that I'm willing to defend specifically.

                And if you don't like or understand something, you sneer?

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                Horace
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                #28

                @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

                I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

                Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.

                If I think something, there's generally a specific reason that I'm willing to defend specifically.

                And if you don't like or understand something, you sneer?

                There's lots of things I don't like that I don't sneer at. Even more that I don't understand. The history quoting and travel thing are long considered and observed by me, so I'll sneer a bit. To the extent they go towards people's ideas of heirarchies, which we all must participate in. Mostly of course it's just idle thoughts, posted idly.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  And yet you claim that I sneer at everything.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    And yet you claim that I sneer at everything.

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                    Larry
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                    #30

                    @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                    And yet you claim that I sneer at everything.

                    You do. I'm surprised you're even arguing the point.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #31

                      There's a difference between sneering and poking fun. I'm genuinely disappointed if this doesn't come across in what I post.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        There's a difference between sneering and poking fun. I'm genuinely disappointed if this doesn't come across in what I post.

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                        Mik
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                        @doctor-phibes it’s very British humor.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          @doctor-phibes it’s very British humor.

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                          @mik said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                          @doctor-phibes it’s very British humor.

                          In England we call it taking the piss.

                          Fucking yanks (j/k)

                          I was only joking

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                            @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                            There's a difference between sneering and poking fun. I'm genuinely disappointed if this doesn't come across in what I post.

                            Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't. But it's you, and that's ok. Sometimes I'm a nice guy. Sometimes I'm an asshole. That's me. And that's ok. We all get to take a piss sometimes. Most of us walk away still friends.... And then there's Andy.....

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                              jon-nyc
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                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                The most unfortunate thing really is that they're crapping up the word "patriot."

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  A Mostly Democratic country.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                    The most unfortunate thing really is that they're crapping up the word "patriot."

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                                    @aqua-letifer said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                    The most unfortunate thing really is that they're crapping up the word "patriot."

                                    Samuel Johnson.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      @aqua-letifer said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                      The most unfortunate thing really is that they're crapping up the word "patriot."

                                      Samuel Johnson.

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                                      @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                      @aqua-letifer said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                      The most unfortunate thing really is that they're crapping up the word "patriot."

                                      Samuel Johnson got it right.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        Fortunately we can rely on patriotism from the military.

                                        https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/19/army-brass-rejects-calls-for-martial-law-no-role-f/

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          David Frum asks a pertinent question

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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