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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    You prefer everyone look the other way and pretend this isn't happening.

    But no, it's not trolling - it was a real question and the respondents treated it as such (even listed some examples from lower levels of government that I wasn't aware of, and Ludendorff which is interesting)

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    Horace
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    #13

    Is there a reason why this is self-evidently a full blown crank conspiracy theory?

    Education is extremely important.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      You prefer everyone look the other way and pretend this isn't happening.

      But no, it's not trolling - it was a real question and the respondents treated it as such (even listed some examples from lower levels of government that I wasn't aware of, and Ludendorff which is interesting)

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      @jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

      You prefer everyone look the other way and pretend this isn't happening.

      But no, it's not trolling - it was a real question and the respondents treated it as such (even listed some examples from lower levels of government that I wasn't aware of, and Ludendorf which is interesting)

      I’m sure there are several examples of people over the decades but most don’t have time to do it. Also his big role with Trump was how many months a whopping 3??

      And yes he is completely whacked out. Worse than Giuliani.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        Is there a reason why this is self-evidently a full blown crank conspiracy theory?

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        @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

        Is there a reason why this is self-evidently a full blown crank conspiracy theory?

        Obama, the FBI, and the CEO of Overstock.com arranged that Hillary take an 18MM bribe so that they could hold it over her head for the express purpose of making sure she didn't get rid of Obamacare?

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

          Is there a reason why this is self-evidently a full blown crank conspiracy theory?

          Obama, the FBI, and the CEO of Overstock.com arranged that Hillary take an 18MM bribe so that they could hold it over her head for the express purpose of making sure she didn't get rid of Obamacare?

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          #16

          Well, bribes to politicians are not self evidently absurd. The rest seems an over-specification of what the tweet actually said.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            Well, bribes to politicians are not self evidently absurd. The rest seems an over-specification of what the tweet actually said.

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            #17

            I recall a story about Hillary having quite a career as a cattle futures trader, as a young politician. You should google it, jon.

            Education is extremely important.

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              A quick google search, here are the top 10 Obama.

              https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/labor/89613-president-obamas-top-10-failed-nominees-and-appointees-sen-demint

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                I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

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                  #20

                  @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                  I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

                  I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    Well, bribes to politicians are not self evidently absurd. The rest seems an over-specification of what the tweet actually said.

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                    #21

                    @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                    The rest seems an over-specification of what the tweet actually said.

                    From the tweet thread:

                    The bribe, which she accepted, was then going to be used by members of the Obama administration against Hillary after she was elected. As it was later explained to him, “President Obama has his people across the federal bureaucracy at this point, but especially at the Department of Justice. Hillary Clinton is going to be President for 8 years and nothing is going to change that, but think of there being a Bunsen burner within the DOJ. That evidence about the [2] bribes you were a part of gathering is going to be sitting on the Bunsen burner. The hand sitting on the burner is going to be one of Barack Obama’s people.

                    If Hillary is a “good girl” and defends Obamacare, that flame stays low. If she’s a “bad girl” and thinks for herself, that flame is going to get turned up high.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                      I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

                      I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #22

                      @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                      I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

                      I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

                      Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.

                      I was only joking

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        You prefer everyone look the other way and pretend this isn't happening.

                        But no, it's not trolling - it was a real question and the respondents treated it as such (even listed some examples from lower levels of government that I wasn't aware of, and Ludendorff which is interesting)

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                        #23

                        @jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                        ...and Ludendorff which is interesting

                        I was curious about this so I looked it up.

                        Ludendorff lost an election against Hinderburg, his former commander, in which he ran as a Nazi. He was shunned by Hitler and founded the Tannenbergbund.

                        The Tannenbergbund soon developed as largely a circle of former officers who had served under Ludendorff in World War I.[4] In terms of ideology the Bund largely concentrated on those whom it opposed, attacking Freemasons, Jews, communists and Jesuits and accusing them of conspiracy.[5] Such people were lumped in together as "die überstaatlichen Mächte" or "the powers above the state".[6] The Bund became a prolific producer of conspiracy literature, although they were openly rejected by the growing Nazi movement, for whom some of the Bund's more wild ideas were even too fancifully conspiratorial.[7] Central also to their ideas was an occultist vision inspired by the Thule Society to which Ludendorff had been introduced by his wife. As such, the Bund presented history as a struggle between the Nordic hero and the three-way alliance of the Jew, Catholic and Freemason.[8] As a consequence, members of the Bund were expected to abandon Christianity and turn to the old Nordic gods.[9]

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          Ludendorff went on to have a starring role in the well known Docu-drama Wonder Woman, so there's hope for Donald Trump, yet.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                            I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

                            I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

                            Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.

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                            @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                            @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                            I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

                            I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

                            Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.

                            If I think something, there's generally a specific reason that I'm willing to defend specifically.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                              The rest seems an over-specification of what the tweet actually said.

                              From the tweet thread:

                              The bribe, which she accepted, was then going to be used by members of the Obama administration against Hillary after she was elected. As it was later explained to him, “President Obama has his people across the federal bureaucracy at this point, but especially at the Department of Justice. Hillary Clinton is going to be President for 8 years and nothing is going to change that, but think of there being a Bunsen burner within the DOJ. That evidence about the [2] bribes you were a part of gathering is going to be sitting on the Bunsen burner. The hand sitting on the burner is going to be one of Barack Obama’s people.

                              If Hillary is a “good girl” and defends Obamacare, that flame stays low. If she’s a “bad girl” and thinks for herself, that flame is going to get turned up high.

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                              #26

                              @jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                              @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                              The rest seems an over-specification of what the tweet actually said.

                              From the tweet thread:

                              The bribe, which she accepted, was then going to be used by members of the Obama administration against Hillary after she was elected. As it was later explained to him, “President Obama has his people across the federal bureaucracy at this point, but especially at the Department of Justice. Hillary Clinton is going to be President for 8 years and nothing is going to change that, but think of there being a Bunsen burner within the DOJ. That evidence about the [2] bribes you were a part of gathering is going to be sitting on the Bunsen burner. The hand sitting on the burner is going to be one of Barack Obama’s people.

                              If Hillary is a “good girl” and defends Obamacare, that flame stays low. If she’s a “bad girl” and thinks for herself, that flame is going to get turned up high.

                              Ok. But I know how effective the weaponization of "conspiracy crank" is, so I like to think twice every time it's thrown out by people who have an obvious political axe to grind, as the original tweeter does. Or, a personal axe to grind, like Phibes, because I disrespected the practice of quoting history, or believing that travel is a profound life accomplishment.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

                                I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

                                Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.

                                If I think something, there's generally a specific reason that I'm willing to defend specifically.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #27

                                @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

                                I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

                                Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.

                                If I think something, there's generally a specific reason that I'm willing to defend specifically.

                                And if you don't like or understand something, you sneer?

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                  @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                  I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

                                  I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

                                  Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.

                                  If I think something, there's generally a specific reason that I'm willing to defend specifically.

                                  And if you don't like or understand something, you sneer?

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                                  Horace
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                                  #28

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                  @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                  @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                  I see Horace is teetering on the brink....

                                  I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.

                                  Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.

                                  If I think something, there's generally a specific reason that I'm willing to defend specifically.

                                  And if you don't like or understand something, you sneer?

                                  There's lots of things I don't like that I don't sneer at. Even more that I don't understand. The history quoting and travel thing are long considered and observed by me, so I'll sneer a bit. To the extent they go towards people's ideas of heirarchies, which we all must participate in. Mostly of course it's just idle thoughts, posted idly.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    And yet you claim that I sneer at everything.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      And yet you claim that I sneer at everything.

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                                      @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                      And yet you claim that I sneer at everything.

                                      You do. I'm surprised you're even arguing the point.

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                                        There's a difference between sneering and poking fun. I'm genuinely disappointed if this doesn't come across in what I post.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          There's a difference between sneering and poking fun. I'm genuinely disappointed if this doesn't come across in what I post.

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                                          @doctor-phibes it’s very British humor.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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