Deranged Magat Syndrome
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This has gotten beyond ridiculous. I can’t believe how many people that I normally consider pretty reasonable (and at least somewhat intelligent) are getting sucked up into this...
wrote on 13 Dec 2020, 19:25 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
This has gotten beyond ridiculous. I can’t believe how many people that I normally consider pretty reasonable (and at least somewhat intelligent) are getting sucked up into this...
That's because all Evangelicals are drooling fools.
Don't you know that?
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wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 21:15 last edited by
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wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 21:43 last edited by jon-nyc
You prefer everyone look the other way and pretend this isn't happening.
But no, it's not trolling - it was a real question and the respondents treated it as such (even listed some examples from lower levels of government that I wasn't aware of, and Ludendorff which is interesting)
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You prefer everyone look the other way and pretend this isn't happening.
But no, it's not trolling - it was a real question and the respondents treated it as such (even listed some examples from lower levels of government that I wasn't aware of, and Ludendorff which is interesting)
wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 21:51 last edited byIs there a reason why this is self-evidently a full blown crank conspiracy theory?
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You prefer everyone look the other way and pretend this isn't happening.
But no, it's not trolling - it was a real question and the respondents treated it as such (even listed some examples from lower levels of government that I wasn't aware of, and Ludendorff which is interesting)
wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 21:52 last edited by Loki@jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
You prefer everyone look the other way and pretend this isn't happening.
But no, it's not trolling - it was a real question and the respondents treated it as such (even listed some examples from lower levels of government that I wasn't aware of, and Ludendorf which is interesting)
I’m sure there are several examples of people over the decades but most don’t have time to do it. Also his big role with Trump was how many months a whopping 3??
And yes he is completely whacked out. Worse than Giuliani.
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wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 21:54 last edited by jon-nyc
@horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
Is there a reason why this is self-evidently a full blown crank conspiracy theory?
Obama, the FBI, and the CEO of Overstock.com arranged that Hillary take an 18MM bribe so that they could hold it over her head for the express purpose of making sure she didn't get rid of Obamacare?
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@horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
Is there a reason why this is self-evidently a full blown crank conspiracy theory?
Obama, the FBI, and the CEO of Overstock.com arranged that Hillary take an 18MM bribe so that they could hold it over her head for the express purpose of making sure she didn't get rid of Obamacare?
wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 21:56 last edited byWell, bribes to politicians are not self evidently absurd. The rest seems an over-specification of what the tweet actually said.
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Well, bribes to politicians are not self evidently absurd. The rest seems an over-specification of what the tweet actually said.
wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 21:57 last edited byI recall a story about Hillary having quite a career as a cattle futures trader, as a young politician. You should google it, jon.
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wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 21:58 last edited by
A quick google search, here are the top 10 Obama.
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wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 21:58 last edited by
I see Horace is teetering on the brink....
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I see Horace is teetering on the brink....
wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 21:59 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
I see Horace is teetering on the brink....
I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.
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Well, bribes to politicians are not self evidently absurd. The rest seems an over-specification of what the tweet actually said.
wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 22:05 last edited by jon-nyc@horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
The rest seems an over-specification of what the tweet actually said.
From the tweet thread:
The bribe, which she accepted, was then going to be used by members of the Obama administration against Hillary after she was elected. As it was later explained to him, “President Obama has his people across the federal bureaucracy at this point, but especially at the Department of Justice. Hillary Clinton is going to be President for 8 years and nothing is going to change that, but think of there being a Bunsen burner within the DOJ. That evidence about the [2] bribes you were a part of gathering is going to be sitting on the Bunsen burner. The hand sitting on the burner is going to be one of Barack Obama’s people.
If Hillary is a “good girl” and defends Obamacare, that flame stays low. If she’s a “bad girl” and thinks for herself, that flame is going to get turned up high.
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@doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
I see Horace is teetering on the brink....
I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.
wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 22:07 last edited by Doctor Phibes@horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
I see Horace is teetering on the brink....
I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.
Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.
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You prefer everyone look the other way and pretend this isn't happening.
But no, it's not trolling - it was a real question and the respondents treated it as such (even listed some examples from lower levels of government that I wasn't aware of, and Ludendorff which is interesting)
wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 22:11 last edited by jon-nyc@jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
...and Ludendorff which is interesting
I was curious about this so I looked it up.
Ludendorff lost an election against Hinderburg, his former commander, in which he ran as a Nazi. He was shunned by Hitler and founded the Tannenbergbund.
The Tannenbergbund soon developed as largely a circle of former officers who had served under Ludendorff in World War I.[4] In terms of ideology the Bund largely concentrated on those whom it opposed, attacking Freemasons, Jews, communists and Jesuits and accusing them of conspiracy.[5] Such people were lumped in together as "die überstaatlichen Mächte" or "the powers above the state".[6] The Bund became a prolific producer of conspiracy literature, although they were openly rejected by the growing Nazi movement, for whom some of the Bund's more wild ideas were even too fancifully conspiratorial.[7] Central also to their ideas was an occultist vision inspired by the Thule Society to which Ludendorff had been introduced by his wife. As such, the Bund presented history as a struggle between the Nordic hero and the three-way alliance of the Jew, Catholic and Freemason.[8] As a consequence, members of the Bund were expected to abandon Christianity and turn to the old Nordic gods.[9]
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wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 22:13 last edited by Doctor Phibes
Ludendorff went on to have a starring role in the well known Docu-drama Wonder Woman, so there's hope for Donald Trump, yet.
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@horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
I see Horace is teetering on the brink....
I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.
Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.
wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 22:16 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
I see Horace is teetering on the brink....
I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.
Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.
If I think something, there's generally a specific reason that I'm willing to defend specifically.
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@horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
The rest seems an over-specification of what the tweet actually said.
From the tweet thread:
The bribe, which she accepted, was then going to be used by members of the Obama administration against Hillary after she was elected. As it was later explained to him, “President Obama has his people across the federal bureaucracy at this point, but especially at the Department of Justice. Hillary Clinton is going to be President for 8 years and nothing is going to change that, but think of there being a Bunsen burner within the DOJ. That evidence about the [2] bribes you were a part of gathering is going to be sitting on the Bunsen burner. The hand sitting on the burner is going to be one of Barack Obama’s people.
If Hillary is a “good girl” and defends Obamacare, that flame stays low. If she’s a “bad girl” and thinks for herself, that flame is going to get turned up high.
wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 22:19 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
The rest seems an over-specification of what the tweet actually said.
From the tweet thread:
The bribe, which she accepted, was then going to be used by members of the Obama administration against Hillary after she was elected. As it was later explained to him, “President Obama has his people across the federal bureaucracy at this point, but especially at the Department of Justice. Hillary Clinton is going to be President for 8 years and nothing is going to change that, but think of there being a Bunsen burner within the DOJ. That evidence about the [2] bribes you were a part of gathering is going to be sitting on the Bunsen burner. The hand sitting on the burner is going to be one of Barack Obama’s people.
If Hillary is a “good girl” and defends Obamacare, that flame stays low. If she’s a “bad girl” and thinks for herself, that flame is going to get turned up high.
Ok. But I know how effective the weaponization of "conspiracy crank" is, so I like to think twice every time it's thrown out by people who have an obvious political axe to grind, as the original tweeter does. Or, a personal axe to grind, like Phibes, because I disrespected the practice of quoting history, or believing that travel is a profound life accomplishment.
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@doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
I see Horace is teetering on the brink....
I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.
Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.
If I think something, there's generally a specific reason that I'm willing to defend specifically.
wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 22:19 last edited by@horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
I see Horace is teetering on the brink....
I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.
Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.
If I think something, there's generally a specific reason that I'm willing to defend specifically.
And if you don't like or understand something, you sneer?
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@horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
I see Horace is teetering on the brink....
I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.
Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.
If I think something, there's generally a specific reason that I'm willing to defend specifically.
And if you don't like or understand something, you sneer?
wrote on 15 Dec 2020, 22:21 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
@doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:
I see Horace is teetering on the brink....
I hope someday to have the courage to never take a side and sneer at everything just like you, phibes.
Yeah, you only sneer at folks who quote history or travel. It's important to take a stand when you finally find something to believe in, even it is Donald Trump.
If I think something, there's generally a specific reason that I'm willing to defend specifically.
And if you don't like or understand something, you sneer?
There's lots of things I don't like that I don't sneer at. Even more that I don't understand. The history quoting and travel thing are long considered and observed by me, so I'll sneer a bit. To the extent they go towards people's ideas of heirarchies, which we all must participate in. Mostly of course it's just idle thoughts, posted idly.