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  • H Horace
    12 Dec 2020, 19:00

    Yeah, patience for a great prediction that we'll all be dead long before is proven wrong. Congratulations on your genius prediciton that will never be testable within the lifetimes of anybody listening to it. It's a great way to pronounce one's genius without ever proving it.

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    Renauda
    wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 19:04 last edited by Renauda 12 Dec 2020, 19:06
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    @Horace

    Your job is to rejoice.

    Elbows up!

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      Horace
      wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 19:05 last edited by
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      and your job is to pretend to be a genius.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 19:07 last edited by
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        You and the other reactionaries will savour the neo-Bonapartism around the corner.

        Elbows up!

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          Horace
          wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 19:07 last edited by
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          Around the corner, define it. Within our lifetimes? At what point is a guy like you willing to admit to being wrong? My prediction: never.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Renauda
            wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 19:10 last edited by Renauda 12 Dec 2020, 19:11
            #132

            I am hoping I will be wrong.

            I was dead wrong when I predicted Trump would win the election. He lost.

            Elbows up!

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              Horace
              wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 19:10 last edited by
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              You have presented your prediction of the future of America with much more conviction and veritas than some prediction of a Trump win, which everybody knew was a gamble.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • H Horace
                12 Dec 2020, 19:10

                You have presented your prediction of the future of America with much more conviction and veritas than some prediction of a Trump win, which everybody knew was a gamble.

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 19:15 last edited by
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                @Horace said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                ... prediction of a Trump win, which everybody knew was a gamble.

                Did @Larry and @Jolly know it was a gamble?

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 19:15 last edited by Renauda 12 Dec 2020, 19:19
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                  I didn't think the power of presidential incumbency was that much of a gamble. Apparently Trump didn't either. In fact I even suspect he truly believes he won. His base certainly thinks so.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • B bachophile
                    12 Dec 2020, 17:36

                    In addition to what I just said...sometimes I follow on Twitter people who are real outliers...say flat earthers, the corona deniers, the rabid antisemites, just to see how far people can go with their beliefs..

                    These people, not the bots, but the people, truly believe in some ideas which I think to me are just beyond any rationality.

                    I see the The trump won by a landslide people in the exact same light. People who actually believe this stuff. It’s fascinating.

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                    Catseye3
                    wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 19:28 last edited by
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                    @bachophile said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                    I see the The trump won by a landslide people in the exact same light. People who actually believe this stuff. It’s fascinating.

                    Mom and Dad have two young sons. One is an optimist, one an incurable pessimist. Their outlooks constantly get them in trouble.

                    Their parents decided to fix this. One Christmas they gave a big box of wonderful toys to the pessimist, and to the optimist they gave a big box of shit.

                    The pessimist unwrapped all his toys and cried and kicked them away saying they were all garbage. The optimist was found head down, shoveling in his box of shit. He pops up and exclaims, "There must be a pony in here someplace!"

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • A Axtremus
                      12 Dec 2020, 19:15

                      @Horace said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                      ... prediction of a Trump win, which everybody knew was a gamble.

                      Did @Larry and @Jolly know it was a gamble?

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 19:29 last edited by
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                      @Axtremus said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                      @Horace said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                      ... prediction of a Trump win, which everybody knew was a gamble.

                      Did @Larry and @Jolly know it was a gamble?

                      I assume so. Personally, I had far less than 100% conviction that Trump would win.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • R Renauda
                        12 Dec 2020, 19:15

                        I didn't think the power of presidential incumbency was that much of a gamble. Apparently Trump didn't either. In fact I even suspect he truly believes he won. His base certainly thinks so.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 19:30 last edited by
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                        @Renauda said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                        I didn't think the power of presidential incumbency was that much of a gamble. Apparently Trump didn't either. In fact I even suspect he truly believes he won. His base certainly thinks so.

                        It's well within normal psychological parameters of hyper-competitive people to not countenance failure on any intellectual level.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • H Horace
                          12 Dec 2020, 19:30

                          @Renauda said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                          I didn't think the power of presidential incumbency was that much of a gamble. Apparently Trump didn't either. In fact I even suspect he truly believes he won. His base certainly thinks so.

                          It's well within normal psychological parameters of hyper-competitive people to not countenance failure on any intellectual level.

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                          A Former User
                          wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 21:24 last edited by
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                          The SCOTUS just kicked the POTUS in the SCROTUS

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 21:45 last edited by
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                            A friend from Texas posted this.

                            B4BB2791-814A-440B-8D5E-0047F2BC371F.jpeg

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Klaus
                              wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 21:54 last edited by
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                              I find it really sad how Trump leaves the office by showing his worst side.

                              I've always had mixed feelings about him, but he also made a few decent policy decisions during those four years.

                              But now it's just a complete WTF. Maybe it's the "...then I'll take everything else down with me" bunker psychology displayed in the "Downfall" movie.

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                              • K Klaus
                                12 Dec 2020, 21:54

                                I find it really sad how Trump leaves the office by showing his worst side.

                                I've always had mixed feelings about him, but he also made a few decent policy decisions during those four years.

                                But now it's just a complete WTF. Maybe it's the "...then I'll take everything else down with me" bunker psychology displayed in the "Downfall" movie.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 21:58 last edited by
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                                @Klaus said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                Maybe it's the "...then I'll take everything else down with me" bunker psychology

                                But is he really? Yeah, he's replaced people (for a total of 6-7 weeks), but I don't see him trying to burn down the country. Even if he fires Barr, what effect will that have on the nation? Nothing.

                                The only thing burning is his reputation, and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 22:36 last edited by Copper 12 Dec 2020, 22:36
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                                  He has done very little that wasn't promised months or years in advance.

                                  He said he would fight for this election.

                                  And he has.

                                  He'll exhaust his options.

                                  Why would he do anything else?

                                  He is not a quitter.

                                  This is not his worst side, it is really terrific.

                                  Even more impressive considering he knew it was a long shot. And he had to put up with all the garbage that has been repeated here.

                                  Good for him.

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                                  • G George K
                                    12 Dec 2020, 21:58

                                    @Klaus said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                    Maybe it's the "...then I'll take everything else down with me" bunker psychology

                                    But is he really? Yeah, he's replaced people (for a total of 6-7 weeks), but I don't see him trying to burn down the country. Even if he fires Barr, what effect will that have on the nation? Nothing.

                                    The only thing burning is his reputation, and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

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                                    Klaus
                                    wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 23:01 last edited by Klaus 12 Dec 2020, 23:03
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                                    @George-K said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                    @Klaus said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                    Maybe it's the "...then I'll take everything else down with me" bunker psychology

                                    But is he really? Yeah, he's replaced people (for a total of 6-7 weeks), but I don't see him trying to burn down the country. Even if he fires Barr, what effect will that have on the nation? Nothing.

                                    The only thing burning is his reputation, and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

                                    He's putting the axe on the most important pillar of any democracy, namely the concept to accept a loss of an election and not tell your gullible supporters that the election was "stolen", without ever presenting evidence that survives a day in court. A democracy can only live and survive when a certain set of rules is accepted by everyone. He's pissed on those rules, and I doubt they can be cleaned easily. They'll stink for decades. You'll maybe find some "but they did it, too" stuff, but there's nothing that comes close in magnitude.

                                    What could be a more effective way to burn down a country than this?

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                                    • G George K
                                      12 Dec 2020, 21:58

                                      @Klaus said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                      Maybe it's the "...then I'll take everything else down with me" bunker psychology

                                      But is he really? Yeah, he's replaced people (for a total of 6-7 weeks), but I don't see him trying to burn down the country. Even if he fires Barr, what effect will that have on the nation? Nothing.

                                      The only thing burning is his reputation, and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

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                                      kluurs
                                      wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 23:04 last edited by
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                                      @George-K said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                      @Klaus said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                      Maybe it's the "...then I'll take everything else down with me" bunker psychology

                                      The only thing burning is his reputation, and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

                                      There’s usually stories that do a post mortem of an administration. If the Middle East deals had been done in the 1980s or 90s, 5his would have been HUGE news. Now, it “ho hum.” No new wars is also a big deal. Iran may be a tougher call but North Korea seems to have calmed down. I’m not sure who will do a balanced review.

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                                      • H Horace
                                        12 Dec 2020, 19:30

                                        @Renauda said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                        I didn't think the power of presidential incumbency was that much of a gamble. Apparently Trump didn't either. In fact I even suspect he truly believes he won. His base certainly thinks so.

                                        It's well within normal psychological parameters of hyper-competitive people to not countenance failure on any intellectual level.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 23:21 last edited by
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                                        @Horace said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                        @Renauda said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                        I didn't think the power of presidential incumbency was that much of a gamble. Apparently Trump didn't either. In fact I even suspect he truly believes he won. His base certainly thinks so.

                                        It's well within normal psychological parameters of hyper-competitive people to not countenance failure on any intellectual level.

                                        Yeah, but when Magnus Carlsen loses a game of 2D chess, he doesn't whine like a little bitch for 2 solid months.

                                        The phrase 'Get the fuck over yourself' springs to mind.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • K Klaus
                                          12 Dec 2020, 23:01

                                          @George-K said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                          @Klaus said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                          Maybe it's the "...then I'll take everything else down with me" bunker psychology

                                          But is he really? Yeah, he's replaced people (for a total of 6-7 weeks), but I don't see him trying to burn down the country. Even if he fires Barr, what effect will that have on the nation? Nothing.

                                          The only thing burning is his reputation, and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

                                          He's putting the axe on the most important pillar of any democracy, namely the concept to accept a loss of an election and not tell your gullible supporters that the election was "stolen", without ever presenting evidence that survives a day in court. A democracy can only live and survive when a certain set of rules is accepted by everyone. He's pissed on those rules, and I doubt they can be cleaned easily. They'll stink for decades. You'll maybe find some "but they did it, too" stuff, but there's nothing that comes close in magnitude.

                                          What could be a more effective way to burn down a country than this?

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                                          Moonbat
                                          wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 23:31 last edited by Moonbat 12 Dec 2020, 23:33
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                                          @Klaus said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                          @George-K said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                          @Klaus said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                          Maybe it's the "...then I'll take everything else down with me" bunker psychology

                                          But is he really? Yeah, he's replaced people (for a total of 6-7 weeks), but I don't see him trying to burn down the country. Even if he fires Barr, what effect will that have on the nation? Nothing.

                                          The only thing burning is his reputation, and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

                                          He's putting the axe on the most important pillar of any democracy, namely the concept to accept a loss of an election and not tell your gullible supporters that the election was "stolen", without ever presenting evidence that survives a day in court. A democracy can only live and survive when a certain set of rules is accepted by everyone. He's pissed on those rules, and I doubt they can be cleaned easily. They'll stink for decades. You'll maybe find some "but they did it, too" stuff, but there's nothing that comes close in magnitude.

                                          What could be a more effective way to burn down a country than this?

                                          I still don't really get why there isn't a greater outcry from Democrats and Republicans alike over this (or maybe there is and it's just TNCR that's not a representative sample). Trump actively tried to bypass a presidential election and seems to have made doing that ok in the eyes of his followers. Perhaps it's the mythology of America as the great bastion of democracy that is responsible for this complacency.

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