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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 19:56 last edited by
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    So I rarely sell on eBay, usually needs to be worth something for me to bother.

    But I'm selling my son's old mouse and keyboard because the few dollars they'll fetch is worth it to him and, you know, learning experience and all.

    So I got an offer for $7.99 for his keyboard which is fair. In the note they guy sends me his phone # and says he has a question.

    We go back and forth with a basic question and answer then he sends this:

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    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      George K
      wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 19:57 last edited by
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      Winner!

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 19:57 last edited by
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        I said no politely, of course.

        Here's the question, I still have his firm offer through eBay that I need to respond to.

        I'm thinking I should reject it since he's a scammer that doesn't want my keyboard anyway so will likely claim some issue when it arrives.

        Agreed?

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          Jolly
          wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 19:58 last edited by
          #4

          Agreed.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 19:59 last edited by
            #5

            Great learning experience for boy-nyc for sure!

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            • J jon-nyc
              7 Dec 2020, 19:57

              I said no politely, of course.

              Here's the question, I still have his firm offer through eBay that I need to respond to.

              I'm thinking I should reject it since he's a scammer that doesn't want my keyboard anyway so will likely claim some issue when it arrives.

              Agreed?

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              George K
              wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 20:08 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in eBay drama:

              Agreed?

              Yup. If he hasn't paid in 48 hours, despite his message, he'll get a "non-paying bidder" flag on his eBay account. Of course, he can open another.

              Also, for your protection, never communicate via email, text or any other way outside of ebay's messages. That way there's a record if there's a dispute.

              I sold a Mac a few years ago, and the buyer left me positive feedback saying all was working fine. Two weeks later, he messaged saying that the computer won't boot. Of course, I had no idea what he might have done to it, so I refused his request for a refund. eBay sided with me. All of our communications were through the ebay portal - that saved my ass.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 20:08 last edited by
                #7

                But, but... this is the guy. Lots of positive feedback.

                https://www.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/painscape

                WTF?

                George weren't you saying something about it being difficult to leave bad feedback?

                Is it more likely this guy got hacked? Hence the 'send it to Florida'?

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  7 Dec 2020, 20:08

                  @jon-nyc said in eBay drama:

                  Agreed?

                  Yup. If he hasn't paid in 48 hours, despite his message, he'll get a "non-paying bidder" flag on his eBay account. Of course, he can open another.

                  Also, for your protection, never communicate via email, text or any other way outside of ebay's messages. That way there's a record if there's a dispute.

                  I sold a Mac a few years ago, and the buyer left me positive feedback saying all was working fine. Two weeks later, he messaged saying that the computer won't boot. Of course, I had no idea what he might have done to it, so I refused his request for a refund. eBay sided with me. All of our communications were through the ebay portal - that saved my ass.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 20:10 last edited by
                  #8

                  @George-K said in eBay drama:

                  Yup. If he hasn't paid in 48 hours, despite his message, he'll get a "non-paying bidder" flag on his eBay account. Of course, he can open another.

                  This isn't a bid, it's an offer. I have 2 days to reject or confirm.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    7 Dec 2020, 20:10

                    @George-K said in eBay drama:

                    Yup. If he hasn't paid in 48 hours, despite his message, he'll get a "non-paying bidder" flag on his eBay account. Of course, he can open another.

                    This isn't a bid, it's an offer. I have 2 days to reject or confirm.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 20:11 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in eBay drama:

                    @George-K said in eBay drama:

                    Yup. If he hasn't paid in 48 hours, despite his message, he'll get a "non-paying bidder" flag on his eBay account. Of course, he can open another.

                    This isn't a bid, it's an offer. I have 2 days to reject or confirm.

                    Ah, that's different. I try to avoid "OBO" sales.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 20:13 last edited by jon-nyc 12 Jul 2020, 20:14
                      #10

                      Still, shouldn't I reject? Seems the likelihood he claims some problem on the receiving end are quite high.

                      But then, look at his legit purchases.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        Klaus
                        wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 20:16 last edited by
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                        Couldn't you out-scam the scammer? Tell him that you'd be happy to send the gift card, but sadly there's a processing fee of $20 that he needs to pay via Western Union to release the gift card. Or something.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 20:23 last edited by Mik 12 Jul 2020, 20:24
                          #12

                          Just reject it. Despite his reputation, this is clearly a scam. Also report it to eBay.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • K Klaus
                            7 Dec 2020, 20:16

                            Couldn't you out-scam the scammer? Tell him that you'd be happy to send the gift card, but sadly there's a processing fee of $20 that he needs to pay via Western Union to release the gift card. Or something.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 21:28 last edited by
                            #13

                            @Klaus said in eBay drama:

                            Couldn't you out-scam the scammer? Tell him that you'd be happy to send the gift card, but sadly there's a processing fee of $20 that he needs to pay via Western Union to release the gift card. Or something.

                            I could trade my time for his. But it's not worth it.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 22:30 last edited by
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                              Turn it over to EBay, they should have a standard procedure.

                              If they are any good they know this guy.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 22:32 last edited by
                                #15

                                This is clever. THere's actually no way to report him.

                                You can report buyers but he didn't buy yet. SO I can't get through the report screen.

                                I can report a seller or an item.

                                I can't report a bidder.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 22:34 last edited by
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                                  I assume his "offer" was not through ebay, but an email/text.

                                  Ignore.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 22:41 last edited by
                                    #17

                                    No it was a proper eBay offer, I still could accept it. He just put his phone number in the offer message:

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                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 22:48 last edited by
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                                      Yeah, but the message you posted about the gift card wasn't through ebay was it?

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 22:55 last edited by
                                        #19

                                        Right. I went ahead and texted him.

                                        But the $7.99 offer is a real offer (as far as eBay is concerned).

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          Loki
                                          wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 22:58 last edited by
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                                          My bet is Jon doesn’t respond but is just curious at this point.

                                          For me the lesson for the kids is that it’s the Wild West out there. I think with improvements in social engineering it will get increasingly hard to know who’s legit especially with all the partial attention we give to everything.

                                          Just last night I had to remind someone very close to me again to not click on that legitimate looking link but rather go to the website itself to follow up on an issue that was presented.

                                          It’s so easy to get people these days, we get the best of the best at work all the time by enticing them to click. I know one person who has been subjected to three education sessions as a result of falling for stuff we do and it’s not even work related.

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