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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    I said no politely, of course.

    Here's the question, I still have his firm offer through eBay that I need to respond to.

    I'm thinking I should reject it since he's a scammer that doesn't want my keyboard anyway so will likely claim some issue when it arrives.

    Agreed?

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    George K
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    #6

    @jon-nyc said in eBay drama:

    Agreed?

    Yup. If he hasn't paid in 48 hours, despite his message, he'll get a "non-paying bidder" flag on his eBay account. Of course, he can open another.

    Also, for your protection, never communicate via email, text or any other way outside of ebay's messages. That way there's a record if there's a dispute.

    I sold a Mac a few years ago, and the buyer left me positive feedback saying all was working fine. Two weeks later, he messaged saying that the computer won't boot. Of course, I had no idea what he might have done to it, so I refused his request for a refund. eBay sided with me. All of our communications were through the ebay portal - that saved my ass.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
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      #7

      But, but... this is the guy. Lots of positive feedback.

      https://www.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/painscape

      WTF?

      George weren't you saying something about it being difficult to leave bad feedback?

      Is it more likely this guy got hacked? Hence the 'send it to Florida'?

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • George KG George K

        @jon-nyc said in eBay drama:

        Agreed?

        Yup. If he hasn't paid in 48 hours, despite his message, he'll get a "non-paying bidder" flag on his eBay account. Of course, he can open another.

        Also, for your protection, never communicate via email, text or any other way outside of ebay's messages. That way there's a record if there's a dispute.

        I sold a Mac a few years ago, and the buyer left me positive feedback saying all was working fine. Two weeks later, he messaged saying that the computer won't boot. Of course, I had no idea what he might have done to it, so I refused his request for a refund. eBay sided with me. All of our communications were through the ebay portal - that saved my ass.

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        jon-nyc
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        #8

        @George-K said in eBay drama:

        Yup. If he hasn't paid in 48 hours, despite his message, he'll get a "non-paying bidder" flag on his eBay account. Of course, he can open another.

        This isn't a bid, it's an offer. I have 2 days to reject or confirm.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @George-K said in eBay drama:

          Yup. If he hasn't paid in 48 hours, despite his message, he'll get a "non-paying bidder" flag on his eBay account. Of course, he can open another.

          This isn't a bid, it's an offer. I have 2 days to reject or confirm.

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          George K
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          @jon-nyc said in eBay drama:

          @George-K said in eBay drama:

          Yup. If he hasn't paid in 48 hours, despite his message, he'll get a "non-paying bidder" flag on his eBay account. Of course, he can open another.

          This isn't a bid, it's an offer. I have 2 days to reject or confirm.

          Ah, that's different. I try to avoid "OBO" sales.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
            #10

            Still, shouldn't I reject? Seems the likelihood he claims some problem on the receiving end are quite high.

            But then, look at his legit purchases.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              Klaus
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              #11

              Couldn't you out-scam the scammer? Tell him that you'd be happy to send the gift card, but sadly there's a processing fee of $20 that he needs to pay via Western Union to release the gift card. Or something.

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                #12

                Just reject it. Despite his reputation, this is clearly a scam. Also report it to eBay.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  Couldn't you out-scam the scammer? Tell him that you'd be happy to send the gift card, but sadly there's a processing fee of $20 that he needs to pay via Western Union to release the gift card. Or something.

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                  jon-nyc
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                  @Klaus said in eBay drama:

                  Couldn't you out-scam the scammer? Tell him that you'd be happy to send the gift card, but sadly there's a processing fee of $20 that he needs to pay via Western Union to release the gift card. Or something.

                  I could trade my time for his. But it's not worth it.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    #14

                    Turn it over to EBay, they should have a standard procedure.

                    If they are any good they know this guy.

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                      jon-nyc
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                      #15

                      This is clever. THere's actually no way to report him.

                      You can report buyers but he didn't buy yet. SO I can't get through the report screen.

                      I can report a seller or an item.

                      I can't report a bidder.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        I assume his "offer" was not through ebay, but an email/text.

                        Ignore.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #17

                          No it was a proper eBay offer, I still could accept it. He just put his phone number in the offer message:

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                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            George K
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                            Yeah, but the message you posted about the gift card wasn't through ebay was it?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              Right. I went ahead and texted him.

                              But the $7.99 offer is a real offer (as far as eBay is concerned).

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                Loki
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #20

                                My bet is Jon doesn’t respond but is just curious at this point.

                                For me the lesson for the kids is that it’s the Wild West out there. I think with improvements in social engineering it will get increasingly hard to know who’s legit especially with all the partial attention we give to everything.

                                Just last night I had to remind someone very close to me again to not click on that legitimate looking link but rather go to the website itself to follow up on an issue that was presented.

                                It’s so easy to get people these days, we get the best of the best at work all the time by enticing them to click. I know one person who has been subjected to three education sessions as a result of falling for stuff we do and it’s not even work related.

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                                  Loki
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                                  #21

                                  On another note I received a letter from Fortiva Retail Credit that my application was rejected after they pinged Equifax.

                                  My credit is way above their average client and that might have been their cue but I did not apply and I can’t see so far that there was a query from the stuff I get from Experian.

                                  Point is all your data is out there and lots of people are trying to get at you all day long and the days of the Nigerian are long gone.

                                  My wife’s outlook account has attempted logins from all over the world happening multiple times a day. I googled it and it’s a thing and with dual authentication they can’t get at it and the message is don’t worry. If you reuse passwords it’s only a matter of time before you get hacked and it will be awful and inconvenient AF. All those apps you have are getting breached all the time and passwords for some reason VP am still be scraped.

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                                  • L Loki

                                    On another note I received a letter from Fortiva Retail Credit that my application was rejected after they pinged Equifax.

                                    My credit is way above their average client and that might have been their cue but I did not apply and I can’t see so far that there was a query from the stuff I get from Experian.

                                    Point is all your data is out there and lots of people are trying to get at you all day long and the days of the Nigerian are long gone.

                                    My wife’s outlook account has attempted logins from all over the world happening multiple times a day. I googled it and it’s a thing and with dual authentication they can’t get at it and the message is don’t worry. If you reuse passwords it’s only a matter of time before you get hacked and it will be awful and inconvenient AF. All those apps you have are getting breached all the time and passwords for some reason VP am still be scraped.

                                    George KG Offline
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                                    George K
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                                    #22

                                    @Loki said in eBay drama:

                                    If you reuse passwords it’s only a matter of time before you get hacked

                                    Jon had a great suggestion on easy-to-remember and unique passwords. I'm transitioning as quickly as possible.

                                    No, not THAT kid of transitioning, you perverts.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Rainman
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                                      #23

                                      We were hit with a keystroke logger. Bought "Guarded ID" which encrypts between the keyboard and the computer. Don't mean to derail the thread, but it might be about time for a thread on anti-virus options.

                                      Click Here

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                                      • L Offline
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                                        Loki
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #24

                                        A while ago my wife’s Uber account was hacked. The Uber guy called and said where are you at 10 at night. I looked out the front window and said where are you and he said Alburquerque. I never was able to get to a live person at Uber to address, they don’t give AF about your problems and have no idea why. I was able to change the password.

                                        I’m sure many of her passwords are for sale on the dark web. Hackers just try them on all the social media accounts. Dual authentication really helps although the industrious can work around that. Thankfully there are still tons of soft targets.

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                                          Ugh @jon-nyc stay away from this bidder. Can only lead to bad things. Yes a learning experience for the boy...that scammers are out there!

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