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The Border is Closed

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @Renauda said in The Border is Closed:

    @Jolly said in The Border is Closed:

    Viruses are apolitical.

    And viral pandemics demand of politicians responsible public health policies and directives at all levels of governance. Very political.

    So what's your point?

    My point is that you can do whatever you damn well please, but at the end of the day, the virus will get through. You can flatten curves but you will not eradicate it.

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    Renauda
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    @Jolly

    That has been an accepted and understood known known since last February. At least among the medical professions. Seems however, to have been used by certain agenda driven provincial politicians as an excuse to do nothing in this province.

    Elbows up!

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @Renauda said in The Border is Closed:

      @Jolly said in The Border is Closed:

      Viruses are apolitical.

      And viral pandemics demand of politicians responsible public health policies and directives at all levels of governance. Very political.

      So what's your point?

      My point is that you can do whatever you damn well please, but at the end of the day, the virus will get through. You can flatten curves but you will not eradicate it.

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      @Jolly said in The Border is Closed:

      @Renauda said in The Border is Closed:

      @Jolly said in The Border is Closed:

      Viruses are apolitical.

      And viral pandemics demand of politicians responsible public health policies and directives at all levels of governance. Very political.

      So what's your point?

      My point is that you can do whatever you damn well please, but at the end of the day, the virus will get through. You can flatten curves but you will not eradicate it.

      Yes and no. A country/province/state decides where it wants it bubble. Once that bubble line is drawn, you work inward to eliminate cases. At the bubble line, you control who goes in and out. Inside the bubble, Mandatory mask wearing, mandatory quarantine if positive or in contact with positive, detailed contact tracing, good hygiene

      Taiwan - more than 200 days without a internal transmitted case. Population 25 MM
      Thailand - more than 200 days without a internal transmitted case. Population 65 MM
      New Zealand - more than 100 days
      South Korea - less than 100 cases/day. Population = 55 MM
      Singapore - 60+ days without a internal transmission

      NOW, BEFORE ANYBODY SAYS ANYTHING, I REALIZE THAT DOING A BUBBLE AROUND THE WHOLE USA IS ALMOST IMPOSSBILE.

      There is not the political or cultural will or legal ability (I dont think) to do what is needed.

      Thailand will maintain it strict bubble until the vaccine is available. Definitely a big impact on the economy, as alot of Thailand is international tourist dependent. But if you talk to restaurant owners for example, alot of them are back to normal. Shopping malls are full, etc.

      Took the below picture today on BTS. Almost every body is still wearing a mask, but probably not necessary.

      PHOTO-2020-11-21-21-32-31.jpg

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        The early success of the Atlantic provinces in the first wave of mitigating then virtually eliminating Covid until just the past six weeks was owing to creating a bubble. Likewise the North West Territories undertook a similar bubble policy last spring and remains, other than one or two cases of Covid early on last spring, free of the pandemic.

        Elbows up!

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