The Border is Closed
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On the north, that is.
So PM Zoolander is, presumably a racist xenophobe, right?
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If you want a country to open, you have to extend the bubble to the borders.
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Nothing to do with race or xenophobia on the part of Canada.
Over 80% of the population in Canada supports the current border restrictions on land travel between the two countries. There are plenty of exemptions to accommodate US citizens for business and family purposes or needing land transit through Canadian territory en route to Alaska and other US destinations in border areas.
Not sure where the Zoolander reference comes from - I assume from above the above it may have something to do with that charlatan, Kevin O'Leary- but for the record the epithet anglophones here refer to the PM as The Dauphin. I am also quite aware that the sarcastic nuance of the this French term will be quite lost on the more reactionary elements who regularly haunt this den of iniquity.
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For those who are actually interested in learning the facts, read this:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-u-s-border-rules-snowbirds-covid-19-1.5822138
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To summarise: The USA makes an unholy mess of the Covid situation, and Americans retaliate by calling Canadians rude names in a desperate attempt to deflect attention.
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I would be quite concerned about the possibility of Agent Orange teaming up with Don Cherry.
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Not to worry, Don Cherry is no longer a respected public figure. His weekly unsolicited moralising rants are a thing of the past. His big mouth on TV finally did him in last year over the wearing of poppies on Remembrance Day. Since then he has been basking in the obscurity he so rightly deserves. Good riddance.
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To summarise: The USA makes an unholy mess of the Covid situation, and Americans retaliate by calling Canadians rude names in a desperate attempt to deflect attention.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Border is Closed:
he USA makes an unholy mess of the Covid situation
And, as you admitted the other day, so has the UK.
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Managing Covid in Canada is primarily the responsibility of individual provinces. In this second wave, Jason Kenny's conservative government here in Alberta chose to heed the concerns of civil libertarians and the rural rabble and just ignore the growing case numbers. Minimal measures was and continues to be the driving policy. As a result Alberta now has the highest per capita growth rate of Covid in the country. We are averaging 1500 cases per day for the past 10 days, 9.3% positive test rate and our ICU capacity is being overrun by Covid patients. There is very real danger of collapsing the public health care system. Just yesterday it was disclosed that this week Kenny has requested for the Feds and Red Cross to supply and set up field hospitals.
Disgraceful. No wonder I, like many Albertans, have come to despise this populist and reactionary Conservative government.
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@Renauda said in The Border is Closed:
Managing Covid in Canada is primarily the responsibility of individual provinces.
Same here in United States. There has been (so far) a wide disparity between states as to how they handle things.
But, that said, states that were vilified earlier in the pandemic (Florida) are showing that now, months later, they are no worse than places like California. This shit spreads everywhere, and the regionalization of measures, I'm sure, is part of the problem.
I'm not sure how the UK differers in terms of its imposition of restrictions, but it's hardly been any more successful than the USA, or the EU in general.
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The UK is blessed with a leader almost as praiseworthy as the US.
"They call him Britain Trump" you know. They don't, of course. Nobody calls anybody "Britain Trump".
The results in the UK are mixed. The North of England is pretty awful, and the central government (i.e. Westminster) did a pretty poor job of managing to alienate the local governments.
It seems to me that Wales and Scotland have done a better job of managing it, but I don't live there, so I'm fairly disconnected. Maybe Andy can comment.
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@Renauda said in The Border is Closed:
Managing Covid in Canada is primarily the responsibility of individual provinces.
Same here in United States. There has been (so far) a wide disparity between states as to how they handle things.
But, that said, states that were vilified earlier in the pandemic (Florida) are showing that now, months later, they are no worse than places like California. This shit spreads everywhere, and the regionalization of measures, I'm sure, is part of the problem.
I'm not sure how the UK differers in terms of its imposition of restrictions, but it's hardly been any more successful than the USA, or the EU in general.
@George-K said in The Border is Closed:
@Renauda said in The Border is Closed:
Managing Covid in Canada is primarily the responsibility of individual provinces.
Same here in United States. There has been (so far) a wide disparity between states as to how they handle things.
But, that said, states that were vilified earlier in the pandemic (Florida) are showing that now, months later, they are no worse than places like California. This shit spreads everywhere, and the regionalization of measures, I'm sure, is part of the problem.During the first wave all the provinces except Ontario and Quebec seemed to manage it very well - I suspect the politicians actually listened to the medical experts then. The best were the Atlantic provinces and BC. This time round every province is having difficulty although the Atlantic provinces continue to lead in suppressing the spread, primarily owing to strict civil measures and closing their borders. The worst provinces in the lot now are hands down, Alberta and Manitoba.
I cannot say that any one province was ever vilified as occured in the US during this crisis, although Alberta's current lack of coherency or management is drawing criticism from all corners. I might add, deservedly so.
One aspect different from the US, is that overall Canadians have supported and continue to support the role of our Federal government in undertaking its responsibilities during this pandemic. Of course there have been highly questionable errors of judgement and omissions, but in general the Feds have risen to the occasion and led the country responsibly and most of all, compassionately. Respect for *The Dauphin * outside of redneck and whiny Alberta, is actually very high.
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@Jolly said in The Border is Closed:
Viruses are apolitical.
And viral pandemics demand of politicians responsible public health policies and directives at all levels of governance. Very political.
So what's your point?
@Renauda said in The Border is Closed:
@Jolly said in The Border is Closed:
Viruses are apolitical.
And viral pandemics demand of politicians responsible public health policies and directives at all levels of governance. Very political.
So what's your point?
My point is that you can do whatever you damn well please, but at the end of the day, the virus will get through. You can flatten curves but you will not eradicate it.
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