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  • CopperC Offline
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    Copper
    wrote on last edited by
    #28

    I think you miss the point of flattening the curve.

    Look at the flattened curve - there is no spike.

    No the point is not to do something stupid and have a spike.

    The point is to flatten it and then move on.

    People will die.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      I have to say, I'm less likely to listen to people telling me to get back to work when they were previously the same people claiming the disease was no worse than the flu, and that we should just carry on as normal because, after all, people die all the time and I'll probably get killed in a car accident anyway.

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      Aqua Letifer
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      #29

      @Doctor-Phibes said in We overreacted!:

      I have to say, I'm less likely to listen to people telling me to get back to work when they were previously the same people claiming the disease was no worse than the flu, and that we should just carry on as normal because, after all, people die all the time and I'll probably get killed in a car accident anyway.

      I love hearing it from people who don't even work themselves.

      Please love yourself.

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      • CopperC Copper

        I think you miss the point of flattening the curve.

        Look at the flattened curve - there is no spike.

        No the point is not to do something stupid and have a spike.

        The point is to flatten it and then move on.

        People will die.

        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on last edited by
        #30

        @Copper said in We overreacted!:

        Look at the flattened curve - there is no spike.

        I never said there was.

        @Copper said in We overreacted!:

        People will die.

        Good safety tip!

        Please love yourself.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Online
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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by
          #31

          There is a touch of the General Lord Kitchener wanting to move his drinks cabinet 3 feet closer to Berlin.

          I was only joking

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #32

            It's all a balancing act.

            If the hospital guys don't go back to work fairly soon, there will be a lot less healthcare in the near future.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #33

              It seems to me that where people can work from home, they should. And a lot of people can do, with a few adjustments, at least partially.

              I was only joking

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                It's all a balancing act.

                If the hospital guys don't go back to work fairly soon, there will be a lot less healthcare in the near future.

                MikM Away
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                Mik
                wrote on last edited by Mik
                #34

                @Jolly said in We overreacted!:

                It's all a balancing act.

                If the hospital guys don't go back to work fairly soon, there will be a lot less healthcare in the near future.

                DING DING DING. That's likely the first place we need to open up. Strangling the health system's revenue stream will not save lives in the long run. They are also the industry most able to cope with safety measures.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #35

                  I have to say, if I had a non-urgent medical appointment at this point I think I'd re-schedule whether the place was open or not.

                  I was only joking

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
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                    #36

                    Normal appointments are still going on. I have one next week via telemedicine. It's mostly the hospital services that are hurting.

                    This will boost telemedicine, which I think is good.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      It seems to me that where people can work from home, they should. And a lot of people can do, with a few adjustments, at least partially.

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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in We overreacted!:

                      It seems to me that where people can work from home, they should. And a lot of people can do, with a few adjustments, at least partially.

                      Healthcare is hands-on. Telemedicine is good for getting prescriptions refilled. Not so much for some other things.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • MikM Mik

                        @Jolly said in We overreacted!:

                        It's all a balancing act.

                        If the hospital guys don't go back to work fairly soon, there will be a lot less healthcare in the near future.

                        DING DING DING. That's likely the first place we need to open up. Strangling the health system's revenue stream will not save lives in the long run. They are also the industry most able to cope with safety measures.

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                        Loki
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                        @Mik said in We overreacted!:

                        @Jolly said in We overreacted!:

                        It's all a balancing act.

                        If the hospital guys don't go back to work fairly soon, there will be a lot less healthcare in the near future.

                        DING DING DING. That's likely the first place we need to open up. Strangling the health system's revenue stream will not save lives in the long run. They are also the industry most able to cope with safety measures.

                        The news keeps talking about hospitals being overwhelmed again if we open up too fast but I don’t think the public understands that overwhelming the vast majority of hospitals have been crushed by the loss of patients. ED visits and inpatients down by 50-75% is the more common story.

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          @Copper said in We overreacted!:

                          Look at the flattened curve - there is no spike.

                          I never said there was.

                          @Copper said in We overreacted!:

                          People will die.

                          Good safety tip!

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                          wrote on last edited by
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                          @Aqua-Letifer said in We overreacted!:

                          @Copper said in We overreacted!:

                          Look at the flattened curve - there is no spike.

                          I never said there was.

                          @Copper said in We overreacted!:

                          People will die.

                          Good safety tip!

                          Yes, you said we would have a skyrocket, then you said we would have a spike.

                          The whole point of the flattened curve is that we have a flattened curve - no skyrocket, no spike.

                          That seems pretty reasonable to me. It is based on an event that can be measured objectively. We wouldn't need a whole lot of emotion and snide remarks.

                          Just meet the goal. There is no time limit. Stay home and reduce the number of active cases. Then go back out. Simple and no real need to mock or accuse.

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in We overreacted!:

                            It seems to me that where people can work from home, they should. And a lot of people can do, with a few adjustments, at least partially.

                            Healthcare is hands-on. Telemedicine is good for getting prescriptions refilled. Not so much for some other things.

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            #40

                            @Jolly said in We overreacted!:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in We overreacted!:

                            It seems to me that where people can work from home, they should. And a lot of people can do, with a few adjustments, at least partially.

                            Healthcare is hands-on. Telemedicine is good for getting prescriptions refilled. Not so much for some other things.

                            I was fine with reading the temperature, pulse rate, weight, and BP to my doctor on the TelePhysical. The prostate exam however...

                            The Brad

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #41

                              I had no qualms about taking Finley to his 6-month checkup and inoculations last week. what I wasn't comfortable with was the fact that we were the only ones there. This can't be maintained.

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @Jolly said in We overreacted!:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in We overreacted!:

                                It seems to me that where people can work from home, they should. And a lot of people can do, with a few adjustments, at least partially.

                                Healthcare is hands-on. Telemedicine is good for getting prescriptions refilled. Not so much for some other things.

                                I was fine with reading the temperature, pulse rate, weight, and BP to my doctor on the TelePhysical. The prostate exam however...

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #42

                                @LuFins-Dad said in We overreacted!:

                                @Jolly said in We overreacted!:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in We overreacted!:

                                It seems to me that where people can work from home, they should. And a lot of people can do, with a few adjustments, at least partially.

                                Healthcare is hands-on. Telemedicine is good for getting prescriptions refilled. Not so much for some other things.

                                I was fine with reading the temperature, pulse rate, weight, and BP to my doctor on the TelePhysical. The prostate exam however...

                                Just find a competent prostitute. Common procedure for a jon that's too slow.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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