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AstraZeneca’s vaccine for COVID-19

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    Axtremus
    wrote on 23 Nov 2020, 12:06 last edited by
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    https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2020/azd1222hlr.html

    Claims 90% efficacy with half-dose than full-dose a month later, but only 60% if done with two full doses a month apart. No need for subzero storage, regular pharmacy refrigerators will be fine.

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      bachophile
      wrote on 23 Nov 2020, 12:11 last edited by
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      The interesting thing about living on the eastern hemisphere is that I read the news about 6 hours before most of you wake up.
      Except klaus of course.

      So yes I saw this.

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        Klaus
        wrote on 23 Nov 2020, 12:26 last edited by
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        Could anyone explain "This is the only western vaccine in such late stage without a stabilized Spike in the pre-fusion conformation." to me?

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          Loki
          wrote on 23 Nov 2020, 12:37 last edited by
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          So less is more? And they thought to do the trial that way. Would be good to understand why.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 23 Nov 2020, 12:50 last edited by jon-nyc
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            Phase 2 trials often are ‘multiple ascending dose’ since they’re trying to balance safety and efficacy, which are presumed to be a trade off, and neither of which are known with much confidence going in.

            What gets me is the lighter dose being more effective. Want to know their n and that it wasn’t just noise.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • K Klaus
              23 Nov 2020, 12:26

              Could anyone explain "This is the only western vaccine in such late stage without a stabilized Spike in the pre-fusion conformation." to me?

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              bachophile
              wrote on 23 Nov 2020, 14:22 last edited by
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              @Klaus said in AstraZeneca’s vaccine for COVID-19:

              Could anyone explain "This is the only western vaccine in such late stage without a stabilized Spike in the pre-fusion conformation." to me?

              https://www.pnas.org/content/114/35/E7348

              U figure it out

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                Mik
                wrote on 23 Nov 2020, 14:40 last edited by
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                I take my vaccines cold. REAL cold.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 23 Nov 2020, 15:34 last edited by
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                  I take my vaccines like I take my women.

                  Extra cold and double dosed.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    23 Nov 2020, 12:50

                    Phase 2 trials often are ‘multiple ascending dose’ since they’re trying to balance safety and efficacy, which are presumed to be a trade off, and neither of which are known with much confidence going in.

                    What gets me is the lighter dose being more effective. Want to know their n and that it wasn’t just noise.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 23 Nov 2020, 16:57 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in AstraZeneca’s vaccine for COVID-19:

                    What gets me is the lighter dose being more effective. Want to know their n and that it wasn’t just noise

                    I’m not the only one curious about this.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 23 Nov 2020, 17:05 last edited by
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                      At this point, 538 would not be my go-to for statistical anything...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        23 Nov 2020, 12:50

                        Phase 2 trials often are ‘multiple ascending dose’ since they’re trying to balance safety and efficacy, which are presumed to be a trade off, and neither of which are known with much confidence going in.

                        What gets me is the lighter dose being more effective. Want to know their n and that it wasn’t just noise.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 13:13 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in AstraZeneca’s vaccine for COVID-19:

                        Phase 2 trials often are ‘multiple ascending dose’ since they’re trying to balance safety and efficacy, which are presumed to be a trade off, and neither of which are known with much confidence going in.

                        What gets me is the lighter dose being more effective. Want to know their n and that it wasn’t just noise.

                        Wait, this wasn’t a ‘multiple ascending dose’ P2. It was p3 and the light dosing was an accident. Fairly low n of 3k. They’re going to have some explaining to do.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 25 Nov 2020, 01:48 last edited by jon-nyc
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                          Oh, and the reduced dosage set had a younger age profile.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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