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AstraZeneca’s vaccine for COVID-19

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  • bachophileB Offline
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    bachophile
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    The interesting thing about living on the eastern hemisphere is that I read the news about 6 hours before most of you wake up.
    Except klaus of course.

    So yes I saw this.

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      Could anyone explain "This is the only western vaccine in such late stage without a stabilized Spike in the pre-fusion conformation." to me?

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        So less is more? And they thought to do the trial that way. Would be good to understand why.

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          Phase 2 trials often are ‘multiple ascending dose’ since they’re trying to balance safety and efficacy, which are presumed to be a trade off, and neither of which are known with much confidence going in.

          What gets me is the lighter dose being more effective. Want to know their n and that it wasn’t just noise.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • KlausK Klaus

            Could anyone explain "This is the only western vaccine in such late stage without a stabilized Spike in the pre-fusion conformation." to me?

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            @Klaus said in AstraZeneca’s vaccine for COVID-19:

            Could anyone explain "This is the only western vaccine in such late stage without a stabilized Spike in the pre-fusion conformation." to me?

            https://www.pnas.org/content/114/35/E7348

            U figure it out

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              I take my vaccines cold. REAL cold.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                I take my vaccines like I take my women.

                Extra cold and double dosed.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Phase 2 trials often are ‘multiple ascending dose’ since they’re trying to balance safety and efficacy, which are presumed to be a trade off, and neither of which are known with much confidence going in.

                  What gets me is the lighter dose being more effective. Want to know their n and that it wasn’t just noise.

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                  @jon-nyc said in AstraZeneca’s vaccine for COVID-19:

                  What gets me is the lighter dose being more effective. Want to know their n and that it wasn’t just noise

                  I’m not the only one curious about this.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    At this point, 538 would not be my go-to for statistical anything...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Phase 2 trials often are ‘multiple ascending dose’ since they’re trying to balance safety and efficacy, which are presumed to be a trade off, and neither of which are known with much confidence going in.

                      What gets me is the lighter dose being more effective. Want to know their n and that it wasn’t just noise.

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                      @jon-nyc said in AstraZeneca’s vaccine for COVID-19:

                      Phase 2 trials often are ‘multiple ascending dose’ since they’re trying to balance safety and efficacy, which are presumed to be a trade off, and neither of which are known with much confidence going in.

                      What gets me is the lighter dose being more effective. Want to know their n and that it wasn’t just noise.

                      Wait, this wasn’t a ‘multiple ascending dose’ P2. It was p3 and the light dosing was an accident. Fairly low n of 3k. They’re going to have some explaining to do.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        Oh, and the reduced dosage set had a younger age profile.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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