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Hey Brenda! King Arthur question

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  • M Mik
    17 Apr 2020, 23:29

    A trademark of Dewey's crust.

    The crust that is my ideal is Pizzeria Locale, a Denver outfit that opened here for a couple years, but closed. Best damn pizza crust ever, and excellent toppings - ham and corn, etc. Now that they have pulled out I need to contact them and see I if Can persuade them to share.

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    brenda
    wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 23:35 last edited by
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    @Mik and share again! Here! ๐Ÿ˜

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      Mik
      wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 23:45 last edited by
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      Actually I found it.

      https://www.pizzerialocale.com/recipes/

      โ€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.โ€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        17 Apr 2020, 23:45

        Actually I found it.

        https://www.pizzerialocale.com/recipes/

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        brenda
        wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 23:52 last edited by
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        @Mik Thank you!!!

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        • O Optimistic
          17 Apr 2020, 19:32

          Unlike pretty much everywhere else on the internet, the comments section at KAF is actually really helpful ๐Ÿ˜ The people who monitor those boards do a great job of responding to questions raised and troubleshooting issues.

          I've had my eye on this recipe for a few months. I love NY style thin pizza if I buy it, but if I'm baking it, I like the thicker crust:

          https://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/crispy-cheesy-pan-pizza-recipe

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          xenon
          wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 01:54 last edited by xenon
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          @Optimistic said in Hey Brenda! King Arthur question:

          Unlike pretty much everywhere else on the internet, the comments section at KAF is actually really helpful ๐Ÿ˜ The people who monitor those boards do a great job of responding to questions raised and troubleshooting issues.

          I've had my eye on this recipe for a few months. I love NY style thin pizza if I buy it, but if I'm baking it, I like the thicker crust:

          https://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/crispy-cheesy-pan-pizza-recipe

          Thanks again for the heads up here, Optimistic.

          The results (my dough was already in progress and not quite the same recipe, but close enough):

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            mark
            wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 02:32 last edited by
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            That looks awesome!

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              George K
              wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 02:35 last edited by
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              Oh. My.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                brenda
                wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 02:38 last edited by
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                That's gorgeous!

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                  xenon
                  wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 02:49 last edited by xenon
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                  Thanks - I was pleasantly surprised by how it turned out! I've made plenty of pizzas - they never turned out like this. Main things that I think made it good:

                  • Good dough recipe

                  • Hot oven - I had it at 550

                  • Seasoned cast iron pan (I'm irrationally finicky about the seasoning on this cheap ass pan. Melted cheese slides right off... mostly)

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 03:03 last edited by
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                    beautiful pizza, Xenon!

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 03:07 last edited by
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                      Good looking pie!!!

                      โ€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.โ€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Optimistic
                        wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 12:22 last edited by
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                        Oh MY. Amazing!

                        Did you use that Forkish recipe you mentioned before?

                        Did you do the cheese under the sauce too?

                        I bought a cast iron pan just for this recipe a few months ago. Still not been used, and only seasoned once. I think Iโ€™ll season it again before I do the recipe.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 13:10 last edited by Mik
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                          Xenon, did you preheat your pan before you put the pizza in?

                          I think we may try shrimp pizza tonight. It's something we had on our honeymoon. We decided to stay in one night and I called this place and asked for white shrimp pizza. my instructions were 'If I can see anything under the shrimp there aren't enough shrimp. add more. Cost is irrelevant'. i think it ended up being like $30 in 1991. but it was damn good with all the champagne.

                          โ€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.โ€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • M Mik
                            18 Apr 2020, 13:10

                            Xenon, did you preheat your pan before you put the pizza in?

                            I think we may try shrimp pizza tonight. It's something we had on our honeymoon. We decided to stay in one night and I called this place and asked for white shrimp pizza. my instructions were 'If I can see anything under the shrimp there aren't enough shrimp. add more. Cost is irrelevant'. i think it ended up being like $30 in 1991. but it was damn good with all the champagne.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 13:36 last edited by
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                            @Mik said in Hey Brenda! King Arthur question:

                            Xenon, did you preheat your pan before you put the pizza in?

                            I think we may try shrimp pizza tonight. It's something we had on our honeymoon. We decided to stay in one night and I called this place and asked for white shrimp pizza. my instructions were 'If I can see anything under the shrimp there aren't enough shrimp. add more. Cost is irrelevant'. i think it ended up being like $30 in 1991. but it was damn good with all the champagne.

                            ๐Ÿ˜† Awesome. Was it soggy? Because the shrimp density would absolutely mess with the baking instructions. If it wasn't, they knew what they were doing.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 14:33 last edited by
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                              No. It was completely and utterly awesome.

                              โ€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.โ€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                xenon
                                wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 15:59 last edited by
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                                @Optimistic i used the Forkish recipe, but itโ€™s similar. Same dough hydration, but no oil in the dough. Also less yeast but longer rise time. Methodwise, I followed the recipe quite closely, but my dough didnโ€™t rise that much in the 2 hours it sat in the pan. It was jiggly though.

                                Also - for this recipe, as long as your pan is kinda seasoned and oiled, you should be fine. It wonโ€™t stick much.

                                @Mik did not preheat the pan. I have in the past, but my results werenโ€™t great. Dunno if it was because of the preheating or poor dough in the past.

                                Preheating also kick starts the dough cooking process when you place the dough in. But the dough cools a bit as you make the pizza. (I guess you could drop in a pre-shaped one with a peel - I never did)

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 16:04 last edited by
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                                  I've read, and last night bears it out, that preheating your cooking surface gives a better, crisper crust. Yours seems to have gotten around that. Cast iron heats up rather slowly, so that surprises me. Maybe you had a thicker crust so longer cook time?

                                  โ€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.โ€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    xenon
                                    wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 16:19 last edited by
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                                    Iโ€™ve never used my cast iron without pre-heating. But in the book Iโ€™ve been using (Flour Water Yeast Bread) - the author specifically uses a non-preheated skillet for pizza. He uses preheated Dutch ovens for all his bread recipes.

                                    This specific recipe on the KA site also does not call for preheating the pan (you canโ€™t since the final dough rise is in the pan).

                                    The results have been surprisingly good.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 17:11 last edited by
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                                      Pizza weekend - decided to make a Margherita for lunch, which is about my favorite pizza. I heated the half sheet in the oven, but not the round sheet I am cooking on. Will see how this turns out. Cooking at 500.

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                                      โ€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.โ€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 17:20 last edited by Mik
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                                        And done - about 8 minutes at 500.

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                                        โ€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.โ€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          brenda
                                          wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 17:23 last edited by
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                                          I wonder if preheating the cast iron pan would reduce some of the oven spring for a thick crust pizza?

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