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Hey Brenda! King Arthur question

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Two points:

    1. Seasoning is more even when ground with the meat.
    2. I would never trust my sausage seasoning to anybody but me. The classic approach is to season, grind a half pound or so, cook a small party and taste. Preferably with a piece of bread or cracker and a little water to recalculate the palate. Remember, you can always add, but you can't take away๐Ÿ˜ฒ
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    @Jolly True and true, Jolly!

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    • MikM Mik

      First piece. Pretty good.

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      Optimistic
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      @Mik Ooh, I love those burnt bubbles!

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        A trademark of Dewey's crust.

        The crust that is my ideal is Pizzeria Locale, a Denver outfit that opened here for a couple years, but closed. Best damn pizza crust ever, and excellent toppings - ham and corn, etc. Now that they have pulled out I need to contact them and see I if Can persuade them to share.

        โ€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.โ€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          A trademark of Dewey's crust.

          The crust that is my ideal is Pizzeria Locale, a Denver outfit that opened here for a couple years, but closed. Best damn pizza crust ever, and excellent toppings - ham and corn, etc. Now that they have pulled out I need to contact them and see I if Can persuade them to share.

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          brenda
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          @Mik and share again! Here! ๐Ÿ˜

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            Actually I found it.

            https://www.pizzerialocale.com/recipes/

            โ€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.โ€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              Actually I found it.

              https://www.pizzerialocale.com/recipes/

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              @Mik Thank you!!!

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              • OptimisticO Optimistic

                Unlike pretty much everywhere else on the internet, the comments section at KAF is actually really helpful ๐Ÿ˜ The people who monitor those boards do a great job of responding to questions raised and troubleshooting issues.

                I've had my eye on this recipe for a few months. I love NY style thin pizza if I buy it, but if I'm baking it, I like the thicker crust:

                https://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/crispy-cheesy-pan-pizza-recipe

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                xenon
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                @Optimistic said in Hey Brenda! King Arthur question:

                Unlike pretty much everywhere else on the internet, the comments section at KAF is actually really helpful ๐Ÿ˜ The people who monitor those boards do a great job of responding to questions raised and troubleshooting issues.

                I've had my eye on this recipe for a few months. I love NY style thin pizza if I buy it, but if I'm baking it, I like the thicker crust:

                https://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/crispy-cheesy-pan-pizza-recipe

                Thanks again for the heads up here, Optimistic.

                The results (my dough was already in progress and not quite the same recipe, but close enough):

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                  That looks awesome!

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                    Oh. My.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      brenda
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                      That's gorgeous!

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                        #53

                        Thanks - I was pleasantly surprised by how it turned out! I've made plenty of pizzas - they never turned out like this. Main things that I think made it good:

                        • Good dough recipe

                        • Hot oven - I had it at 550

                        • Seasoned cast iron pan (I'm irrationally finicky about the seasoning on this cheap ass pan. Melted cheese slides right off... mostly)

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                          beautiful pizza, Xenon!

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Good looking pie!!!

                            โ€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.โ€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Oh MY. Amazing!

                              Did you use that Forkish recipe you mentioned before?

                              Did you do the cheese under the sauce too?

                              I bought a cast iron pan just for this recipe a few months ago. Still not been used, and only seasoned once. I think Iโ€™ll season it again before I do the recipe.

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                                Xenon, did you preheat your pan before you put the pizza in?

                                I think we may try shrimp pizza tonight. It's something we had on our honeymoon. We decided to stay in one night and I called this place and asked for white shrimp pizza. my instructions were 'If I can see anything under the shrimp there aren't enough shrimp. add more. Cost is irrelevant'. i think it ended up being like $30 in 1991. but it was damn good with all the champagne.

                                โ€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.โ€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  Xenon, did you preheat your pan before you put the pizza in?

                                  I think we may try shrimp pizza tonight. It's something we had on our honeymoon. We decided to stay in one night and I called this place and asked for white shrimp pizza. my instructions were 'If I can see anything under the shrimp there aren't enough shrimp. add more. Cost is irrelevant'. i think it ended up being like $30 in 1991. but it was damn good with all the champagne.

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                                  @Mik said in Hey Brenda! King Arthur question:

                                  Xenon, did you preheat your pan before you put the pizza in?

                                  I think we may try shrimp pizza tonight. It's something we had on our honeymoon. We decided to stay in one night and I called this place and asked for white shrimp pizza. my instructions were 'If I can see anything under the shrimp there aren't enough shrimp. add more. Cost is irrelevant'. i think it ended up being like $30 in 1991. but it was damn good with all the champagne.

                                  ๐Ÿ˜† Awesome. Was it soggy? Because the shrimp density would absolutely mess with the baking instructions. If it wasn't, they knew what they were doing.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    No. It was completely and utterly awesome.

                                    โ€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.โ€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      xenon
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                                      @Optimistic i used the Forkish recipe, but itโ€™s similar. Same dough hydration, but no oil in the dough. Also less yeast but longer rise time. Methodwise, I followed the recipe quite closely, but my dough didnโ€™t rise that much in the 2 hours it sat in the pan. It was jiggly though.

                                      Also - for this recipe, as long as your pan is kinda seasoned and oiled, you should be fine. It wonโ€™t stick much.

                                      @Mik did not preheat the pan. I have in the past, but my results werenโ€™t great. Dunno if it was because of the preheating or poor dough in the past.

                                      Preheating also kick starts the dough cooking process when you place the dough in. But the dough cools a bit as you make the pizza. (I guess you could drop in a pre-shaped one with a peel - I never did)

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                                        I've read, and last night bears it out, that preheating your cooking surface gives a better, crisper crust. Yours seems to have gotten around that. Cast iron heats up rather slowly, so that surprises me. Maybe you had a thicker crust so longer cook time?

                                        โ€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.โ€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Iโ€™ve never used my cast iron without pre-heating. But in the book Iโ€™ve been using (Flour Water Yeast Bread) - the author specifically uses a non-preheated skillet for pizza. He uses preheated Dutch ovens for all his bread recipes.

                                          This specific recipe on the KA site also does not call for preheating the pan (you canโ€™t since the final dough rise is in the pan).

                                          The results have been surprisingly good.

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