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      Rumors are that the next iteration of the iMac will not have traditional spinning-platter hard drives, but everything will be SSD.

      That'll be interesting for those of us that have tons and tons of photos, music, etc on their internal hard drives.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Rumors are that the next iteration of the iMac will not have traditional spinning-platter hard drives, but everything will be SSD.

        That'll be interesting for those of us that have tons and tons of photos, music, etc on their internal hard drives.

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        @George-K said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

        That'll be interesting for those of us that have tons and tons of photos, music, etc on their internal hard drives.

        Just buy one with a higher capacity built-in SSD. Already you can configure a 4TB SSD for a MacBook Pro, so a 4TB SSD for an iMac shouldn’t be a too challenging technically.

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          Rumors are that the next iteration of the iMac will not have traditional spinning-platter hard drives, but everything will be SSD.

          That'll be interesting for those of us that have tons and tons of photos, music, etc on their internal hard drives.

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          @George-K I haven’t dealt with a HDD in years now on both my work and home computes (including MacBooks).

          I couldn’t imagine using an hdd now.

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            There’s a lot of data that doesn’t benefit much from SSDs, such as movies. The same holds for data that changes very frequently. It makes a lot of sense to have a cheap HDD in addition to SSD.

            Apple used to sell “hybrid” drives, which also retry to combine the advantages of both. I’m not sure why they’ve given up on them.

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              There’s a lot of data that doesn’t benefit much from SSDs, such as movies. The same holds for data that changes very frequently. It makes a lot of sense to have a cheap HDD in addition to SSD.

              Apple used to sell “hybrid” drives, which also retry to combine the advantages of both. I’m not sure why they’ve given up on them.

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              @Klaus the price of NAND keeps going down.

              At some point the economics on a per byte basis will probably be in the favor of SSDs.

              Or rather, for the consumer market - the price differential becomes negligible.

              (There’s still a big gap for enterprise applications because of the volumes required).

              With Apple’s juicy margins - it’s probably easier to just kick out hdd’s altogether.

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                Well, let's say you want 8TB of persistent memory.

                An 8TB HDD costs something like 250$.

                If you configure a Mac Pro with 8TB of SSD, they want $3000 or so more for it.

                It's a significant difference.

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                  Well, let's say you want 8TB of persistent memory.

                  An 8TB HDD costs something like 250$.

                  If you configure a Mac Pro with 8TB of SSD, they want $3000 or so more for it.

                  It's a significant difference.

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                  @Klaus said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

                  If you configure a Mac Pro with 8TB of SSD, they want $3000 or so more for it.

                  A 27" iMac, upgraded from the standard 2TB fusion drive to a 2TB SSD will be $700 more (although a bare 2TB SSD is, of course cheaper). I wonder if the new iMacs will have something bigger than 2TB available.

                  @Axtremus said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

                  Just buy one with a higher capacity built-in SSD. Already you can configure a 4TB SSD for a MacBook Pro, so a 4TB SSD for an iMac shouldn’t be a too challenging technically.

                  Er, no.

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    I meant to say that it's wouldn't be technically challenging for Apple to mass produce an iMac with built-in 4 TB SSD. I was not commenting on retrofitting old iMacs with 4 TB drive.

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                      Holy moly those storage prices are high! Apple does flex it's pricing power on storage very aggressively.

                      iPhone is a fantastic example. The iPhone 11 pro is $999 for 64Gb base model, but $1150 for the next model up (256Gb).

                      They know that 128Gb is the sweet spot for most people - but unlike any other equipment maker can flex their power to completely nix that tier.

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