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@taiwan_girl said in Shocking:
As been said before, the best campaigner during the campaign for president elect Biddn, was President Trump.
Yes, you've said that before. Repeating it won't make it become true, but you've said it before.
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 02:18 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Shocking:
As been said before, the best campaigner during the campaign for president elect Biddn, was President Trump.
Yes, you've said that before. Repeating it won't make it become true, but you've said it before.
I think she's right.
Trump is a difficult person (to say the least). He steps on his dick every other day.
That's not to say he's wrong, it's to say he's an obnoxious, vengeful, pig.
But that's not to say he's wrong for the country.
Biden played it smart.
"Let Trump be Trump" was the mantra a few years ago, and it worked.
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wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 02:28 last edited by
I used to step on mine once in a while too...
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wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 02:52 last edited by
It would have been a slaughter for Republicans and President Trump as well if he'd sat back - but he and the GOP really campaigned while the Democrats relied upon money and advertising. Trump and the GOP destroyed the Dems on the ground game, i.e. public appearances, knocking on doors, staging rallies, etc.
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It would have been a slaughter for Republicans and President Trump as well if he'd sat back - but he and the GOP really campaigned while the Democrats relied upon money and advertising. Trump and the GOP destroyed the Dems on the ground game, i.e. public appearances, knocking on doors, staging rallies, etc.
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 02:56 last edited by xenon@kluurs I dunno. In person rallies are full of diehards.
Maybe it energized them enough to push people others to turnout?
Feels like if you turnout to a political rally, you will reliably turnout to vote for that politician.
There’s no counterfactual here.
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@taiwan_girl said in Shocking:
As been said before, the best campaigner during the campaign for president elect Biddn, was President Trump.
Yes, you've said that before. Repeating it won't make it become true, but you've said it before.
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 03:09 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Shocking:
As been said before, the best campaigner during the campaign for president elect Biddn, was President Trump.
Yes, you've said that before. Repeating it won't make it become true, but you've said it before.
Repeating it didn’t show it to be true, the election results did.
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wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 03:10 last edited by
We don't know the election results yet.
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@kluurs I dunno. In person rallies are full of diehards.
Maybe it energized them enough to push people others to turnout?
Feels like if you turnout to a political rally, you will reliably turnout to vote for that politician.
There’s no counterfactual here.
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wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 03:19 last edited by
We know the headline result. But not the final count.
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It would have been a slaughter for Republicans and President Trump as well if he'd sat back - but he and the GOP really campaigned while the Democrats relied upon money and advertising. Trump and the GOP destroyed the Dems on the ground game, i.e. public appearances, knocking on doors, staging rallies, etc.
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 03:24 last edited byIt would have been a slaughter for Republicans and President Trump as well if he'd sat back - but he and the GOP really campaigned while the Democrats relied upon money and advertising. Trump and the GOP destroyed the Dems on the ground game, i.e. public appearances, knocking on doors, staging rallies, etc.
I agree. I wonder though if he had played the first debate different and changed his own Covid experience result if he would have picked up enough splitter ticket votes. I don’t think his base would have been less enthusiastic to vote.
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wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 09:30 last edited by
Mail-in ballots.
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If I told you an incumbent president had 52 percent approval on Election Day and ended up winning 10 million more votes than during his first election, would you predict victory? What if 56 percent of voters felt they were better off since the president had entered office? What if you knew that the incumbent had a nearly 30 percent enthusiasm edge over his opponent, or that when asked for whom they thought their neighbors were voting, nearly 10 percent more Americans expected the president to be re-elected than to lose?
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 09:58 last edited byIf I told you an incumbent president had 52 percent approval on Election Day and ended up winning 10 million more votes than during his first election, would you predict victory? What if 56 percent of voters felt they were better off since the president had entered office? What if you knew that the incumbent had a nearly 30 percent enthusiasm edge over his opponent, or that when asked for whom they thought their neighbors were voting, nearly 10 percent more Americans expected the president to be re-elected than to lose?
Trump's political skills and his cult of personality cannot be doubted.
Yet it is still shocking that over 70 million Americans voted to put him back in the White House despite witnessing his constant lying, his open racism, and his lethal incompetance over the last four years. -
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 11:16 last edited by Jolly
Trump is not racist. The last racist President we had was Obama and he wasn't overt. I think if you look at who voted for Trump, it puts to rest the racist lie.
The 71 million who voted for him, puts the incompetence argument pretty much to bed. In split givernment, he was more effective than most.
As for lying, name one politician who doesn't.
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wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 14:37 last edited by
I don’t think President Trump is racist. I think he looks out for himself above all others, and if you can help him, he will like you. If you can’t help him or he feels that you have somehow crossed him, then he won’t like you. But I don’t think it has anything to do with race
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If I told you an incumbent president had 52 percent approval on Election Day and ended up winning 10 million more votes than during his first election, would you predict victory? What if 56 percent of voters felt they were better off since the president had entered office? What if you knew that the incumbent had a nearly 30 percent enthusiasm edge over his opponent, or that when asked for whom they thought their neighbors were voting, nearly 10 percent more Americans expected the president to be re-elected than to lose?
Trump's political skills and his cult of personality cannot be doubted.
Yet it is still shocking that over 70 million Americans voted to put him back in the White House despite witnessing his constant lying, his open racism, and his lethal incompetance over the last four years.wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 17:23 last edited byIf I told you an incumbent president had 52 percent approval on Election Day and ended up winning 10 million more votes than during his first election, would you predict victory? What if 56 percent of voters felt they were better off since the president had entered office? What if you knew that the incumbent had a nearly 30 percent enthusiasm edge over his opponent, or that when asked for whom they thought their neighbors were voting, nearly 10 percent more Americans expected the president to be re-elected than to lose?
Trump's political skills and his cult of personality cannot be doubted.
Yet it is still shocking that over 70 million Americans voted to put him back in the White House despite witnessing his constant lying, his open racism, and his lethal incompetance over the last four years.That has to be one of the dumbest, backward from reality, utterly ignorant statements I've read. The entire forum has lost IQ points just from having read it.
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wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 20:24 last edited by
I would say the anti-Trump vote was energized to come out an....sit at their kitchen table and fill out a ballot.
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I would say the anti-Trump vote was energized to come out an....sit at their kitchen table and fill out a ballot.
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@LuFins-Dad LMAO
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I don’t think President Trump is racist. I think he looks out for himself above all others, and if you can help him, he will like you. If you can’t help him or he feels that you have somehow crossed him, then he won’t like you. But I don’t think it has anything to do with race
wrote on 16 Nov 2020, 07:52 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Shocking:
I don’t think President Trump is racist. I think he looks out for himself above all others, and if you can help him, he will like you. If you can’t help him or he feels that you have somehow crossed him, then he won’t like you. But I don’t think it has anything to do with race
To be absolutely fair, there's nothing in the POTUS job description about having to care for people. He fulfills his contract but don't expect anything other than poor customer service.
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@taiwan_girl said in Shocking:
I don’t think President Trump is racist. I think he looks out for himself above all others, and if you can help him, he will like you. If you can’t help him or he feels that you have somehow crossed him, then he won’t like you. But I don’t think it has anything to do with race
To be absolutely fair, there's nothing in the POTUS job description about having to care for people. He fulfills his contract but don't expect anything other than poor customer service.
Nor is it written that he also has to seem like he gives a shit.wrote on 16 Nov 2020, 13:32 last edited by Jolly@taiwan_girl said in Shocking:
I don’t think President Trump is racist. I think he looks out for himself above all others, and if you can help him, he will like you. If you can’t help him or he feels that you have somehow crossed him, then he won’t like you. But I don’t think it has anything to do with race
To be absolutely fair, there's nothing in the POTUS job description about having to care for people. He fulfills his contract but don't expect anything other than poor customer service.
Nor is it written that he also has to seem like he gives a shit.Oh, bugger off.
You don't gave a clue about how Trump treats people out of camera view. You don't know about flights he has paid for, tuition he has paid for or funerals he has paid for, because he usually doesn't talk about it and the media usually doesn't cover it.
As for how Trump treats the general public, I think he does a pretty decent job. His viewpoint is usually economic, which does have its failings, but to say he doesn't about care us, is just wanker BS.