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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    As been said before, the best campaigner during the campaign for president elect Biddn, was President Trump.

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    @taiwan_girl said in Shocking:

    As been said before, the best campaigner during the campaign for president elect Biddn, was President Trump.

    Yes, you've said that before. Repeating it won't make it become true, but you've said it before.

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    • LarryL Larry

      @taiwan_girl said in Shocking:

      As been said before, the best campaigner during the campaign for president elect Biddn, was President Trump.

      Yes, you've said that before. Repeating it won't make it become true, but you've said it before.

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      @Larry said in Shocking:

      @taiwan_girl said in Shocking:

      As been said before, the best campaigner during the campaign for president elect Biddn, was President Trump.

      Yes, you've said that before. Repeating it won't make it become true, but you've said it before.

      I think she's right.

      Trump is a difficult person (to say the least). He steps on his dick every other day.

      That's not to say he's wrong, it's to say he's an obnoxious, vengeful, pig.

      But that's not to say he's wrong for the country.

      Biden played it smart.

      "Let Trump be Trump" was the mantra a few years ago, and it worked.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        I used to step on mine once in a while too...

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          It would have been a slaughter for Republicans and President Trump as well if he'd sat back - but he and the GOP really campaigned while the Democrats relied upon money and advertising. Trump and the GOP destroyed the Dems on the ground game, i.e. public appearances, knocking on doors, staging rallies, etc.

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          • kluursK kluurs

            It would have been a slaughter for Republicans and President Trump as well if he'd sat back - but he and the GOP really campaigned while the Democrats relied upon money and advertising. Trump and the GOP destroyed the Dems on the ground game, i.e. public appearances, knocking on doors, staging rallies, etc.

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            @kluurs I dunno. In person rallies are full of diehards.

            Maybe it energized them enough to push people others to turnout?

            Feels like if you turnout to a political rally, you will reliably turnout to vote for that politician.

            There’s no counterfactual here.

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            • LarryL Larry

              @taiwan_girl said in Shocking:

              As been said before, the best campaigner during the campaign for president elect Biddn, was President Trump.

              Yes, you've said that before. Repeating it won't make it become true, but you've said it before.

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              @Larry said in Shocking:

              @taiwan_girl said in Shocking:

              As been said before, the best campaigner during the campaign for president elect Biddn, was President Trump.

              Yes, you've said that before. Repeating it won't make it become true, but you've said it before.

              Repeating it didn’t show it to be true, the election results did.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                We don't know the election results yet.

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                  @kluurs I dunno. In person rallies are full of diehards.

                  Maybe it energized them enough to push people others to turnout?

                  Feels like if you turnout to a political rally, you will reliably turnout to vote for that politician.

                  There’s no counterfactual here.

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                    We know the headline result. But not the final count.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • kluursK kluurs

                      It would have been a slaughter for Republicans and President Trump as well if he'd sat back - but he and the GOP really campaigned while the Democrats relied upon money and advertising. Trump and the GOP destroyed the Dems on the ground game, i.e. public appearances, knocking on doors, staging rallies, etc.

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                      @kluurs said in Shocking:

                      It would have been a slaughter for Republicans and President Trump as well if he'd sat back - but he and the GOP really campaigned while the Democrats relied upon money and advertising. Trump and the GOP destroyed the Dems on the ground game, i.e. public appearances, knocking on doors, staging rallies, etc.

                      I agree. I wonder though if he had played the first debate different and changed his own Covid experience result if he would have picked up enough splitter ticket votes. I don’t think his base would have been less enthusiastic to vote.

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                        Mail-in ballots.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          If I told you an incumbent president had 52 percent approval on Election Day and ended up winning 10 million more votes than during his first election, would you predict victory? What if 56 percent of voters felt they were better off since the president had entered office? What if you knew that the incumbent had a nearly 30 percent enthusiasm edge over his opponent, or that when asked for whom they thought their neighbors were voting, nearly 10 percent more Americans expected the president to be re-elected than to lose?

                          https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/13/5-historical-trends-that-show-its-utterly-shocking-if-trump-lost-in-2020/

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                          @Jolly said in Shocking:

                          If I told you an incumbent president had 52 percent approval on Election Day and ended up winning 10 million more votes than during his first election, would you predict victory? What if 56 percent of voters felt they were better off since the president had entered office? What if you knew that the incumbent had a nearly 30 percent enthusiasm edge over his opponent, or that when asked for whom they thought their neighbors were voting, nearly 10 percent more Americans expected the president to be re-elected than to lose?

                          https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/13/5-historical-trends-that-show-its-utterly-shocking-if-trump-lost-in-2020/

                          Trump's political skills and his cult of personality cannot be doubted.
                          Yet it is still shocking that over 70 million Americans voted to put him back in the White House despite witnessing his constant lying, his open racism, and his lethal incompetance over the last four years.

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                            Trump is not racist. The last racist President we had was Obama and he wasn't overt. I think if you look at who voted for Trump, it puts to rest the racist lie.

                            The 71 million who voted for him, puts the incompetence argument pretty much to bed. In split givernment, he was more effective than most.

                            As for lying, name one politician who doesn't.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              I don’t think President Trump is racist. I think he looks out for himself above all others, and if you can help him, he will like you. If you can’t help him or he feels that you have somehow crossed him, then he won’t like you. But I don’t think it has anything to do with race

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                                @Jolly said in Shocking:

                                If I told you an incumbent president had 52 percent approval on Election Day and ended up winning 10 million more votes than during his first election, would you predict victory? What if 56 percent of voters felt they were better off since the president had entered office? What if you knew that the incumbent had a nearly 30 percent enthusiasm edge over his opponent, or that when asked for whom they thought their neighbors were voting, nearly 10 percent more Americans expected the president to be re-elected than to lose?

                                https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/13/5-historical-trends-that-show-its-utterly-shocking-if-trump-lost-in-2020/

                                Trump's political skills and his cult of personality cannot be doubted.
                                Yet it is still shocking that over 70 million Americans voted to put him back in the White House despite witnessing his constant lying, his open racism, and his lethal incompetance over the last four years.

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                                @AndyD said in Shocking:

                                @Jolly said in Shocking:

                                If I told you an incumbent president had 52 percent approval on Election Day and ended up winning 10 million more votes than during his first election, would you predict victory? What if 56 percent of voters felt they were better off since the president had entered office? What if you knew that the incumbent had a nearly 30 percent enthusiasm edge over his opponent, or that when asked for whom they thought their neighbors were voting, nearly 10 percent more Americans expected the president to be re-elected than to lose?

                                https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/13/5-historical-trends-that-show-its-utterly-shocking-if-trump-lost-in-2020/

                                Trump's political skills and his cult of personality cannot be doubted.
                                Yet it is still shocking that over 70 million Americans voted to put him back in the White House despite witnessing his constant lying, his open racism, and his lethal incompetance over the last four years.

                                That has to be one of the dumbest, backward from reality, utterly ignorant statements I've read. The entire forum has lost IQ points just from having read it.

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                                  I would say the anti-Trump vote was energized to come out an....sit at their kitchen table and fill out a ballot.

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                                  • KincaidK Kincaid

                                    I would say the anti-Trump vote was energized to come out an....sit at their kitchen table and fill out a ballot.

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                                    @Kincaid said in Shocking:

                                    I would say the anti-Trump vote was energized to come out an....sit at their kitchen table and fill out a ballot.

                                    That’s not fair... They also had to open their dead parents mail and fill that one out too...

                                    Oh, and take pictures of their ballot and post it on Facebook.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @Kincaid said in Shocking:

                                      I would say the anti-Trump vote was energized to come out an....sit at their kitchen table and fill out a ballot.

                                      That’s not fair... They also had to open their dead parents mail and fill that one out too...

                                      Oh, and take pictures of their ballot and post it on Facebook.

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                                      @LuFins-Dad LMAO

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        I don’t think President Trump is racist. I think he looks out for himself above all others, and if you can help him, he will like you. If you can’t help him or he feels that you have somehow crossed him, then he won’t like you. But I don’t think it has anything to do with race

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                                        @taiwan_girl said in Shocking:

                                        I don’t think President Trump is racist. I think he looks out for himself above all others, and if you can help him, he will like you. If you can’t help him or he feels that you have somehow crossed him, then he won’t like you. But I don’t think it has anything to do with race

                                        To be absolutely fair, there's nothing in the POTUS job description about having to care for people. He fulfills his contract but don't expect anything other than poor customer service.
                                        Nor is it written that he also has to seem like he gives a shit.

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                                          @taiwan_girl said in Shocking:

                                          I don’t think President Trump is racist. I think he looks out for himself above all others, and if you can help him, he will like you. If you can’t help him or he feels that you have somehow crossed him, then he won’t like you. But I don’t think it has anything to do with race

                                          To be absolutely fair, there's nothing in the POTUS job description about having to care for people. He fulfills his contract but don't expect anything other than poor customer service.
                                          Nor is it written that he also has to seem like he gives a shit.

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                                          Jolly
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                                          @AndyD said in Shocking:

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Shocking:

                                          I don’t think President Trump is racist. I think he looks out for himself above all others, and if you can help him, he will like you. If you can’t help him or he feels that you have somehow crossed him, then he won’t like you. But I don’t think it has anything to do with race

                                          To be absolutely fair, there's nothing in the POTUS job description about having to care for people. He fulfills his contract but don't expect anything other than poor customer service.
                                          Nor is it written that he also has to seem like he gives a shit.

                                          Oh, bugger off.

                                          You don't gave a clue about how Trump treats people out of camera view. You don't know about flights he has paid for, tuition he has paid for or funerals he has paid for, because he usually doesn't talk about it and the media usually doesn't cover it.

                                          As for how Trump treats the general public, I think he does a pretty decent job. His viewpoint is usually economic, which does have its failings, but to say he doesn't about care us, is just wanker BS.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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