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Don't be a whore.

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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    Should certain professions have a higher “standard” when it is about what you do on your private time (as long as it is legal)?

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    @taiwan_girl said in Don't be a whore.:

    Should certain professions have a higher “standard” when it is about what you do on your private time (as long as it is legal)?

    Life doesn't work that way.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      Should certain professions have a higher “standard” when it is about what you do on your private time (as long as it is legal)?

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      @taiwan_girl said in Don't be a whore.:

      Should certain professions have a higher “standard” when it is about what you do on your private time (as long as it is legal)?

      Ask any government contractor. That's absolutely the expectation.

      Please love yourself.

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        Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          kluurs
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          People do things to survive - and if that's what she had to do - so be it, but she should have shown more discretion in sharing that information.

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          • MikM Mik

            Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

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            @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

            Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

            Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

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            • KlausK Klaus

              @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

              Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

              Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

              JollyJ Offline
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              @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

              @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

              Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

              Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

              Judgement.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • KlausK Klaus

                @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

                Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

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                @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                Disagree all you want, but yours is an outlier opinion. I'm not saying it should be, but that's the way it is.

                Please love yourself.

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                  @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                  Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

                  Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                  Judgement.

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                  @Jolly said in Don't be a whore.:

                  @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                  @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                  Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

                  Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                  Judgement.

                  It shows a society's poor judgement when a competent teacher is prevented from teaching just because said teacher also worked in the sex industry in the past. Such prudery wastes human talents.

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    There's still places where an unmarried teacher will get let go if she gets pregnant.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                      Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                      Disagree all you want, but yours is an outlier opinion. I'm not saying it should be, but that's the way it is.

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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Don't be a whore.:

                      @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                      Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                      Disagree all you want, but yours is an outlier opinion. I'm not saying it should be, but that's the way it is.

                      Maybe in the US.

                      I've read of several former prostitutes who became teacher over here. It's not so uncommon for female students to finance their studies that way. It's no big deal.

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @Jolly said in Don't be a whore.:

                        @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                        @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                        Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

                        Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                        Judgement.

                        It shows a society's poor judgement when a competent teacher is prevented from teaching just because said teacher also worked in the sex industry in the past. Such prudery wastes human talents.

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                        @Axtremus said in Don't be a whore.:

                        @Jolly said in Don't be a whore.:

                        @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                        @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                        Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

                        Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                        Judgement.

                        It shows a society's poor judgement when a competent teacher is prevented from teaching just because said teacher also worked in the sex industry in the past. Such prudery wastes human talents.

                        It's a competitive world -- if you have two equally qualified candidates, one with a sketchy past, and one without, you hire the one without. The world is full of talented human beings, your position would make sense if that talent was in dire need, otherwise it seems more obvious that she wasted her own opportunities and truncated her own future by poor choices which made her less competitive. People do this all the time on a whole range of decisions.

                        I'm sure her considerable talents lie elsewhere... 😉

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                          • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper

                            @Axtremus said in Don't be a whore.:

                            @Jolly said in Don't be a whore.:

                            @Klaus said in Don't be a whore.:

                            @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                            Ask any parent if they want her teaching their child. Once that information is out it will taint the experience forever.

                            Disagreed. I want my kids to have good teachers. Why should I object to a teacher who worked legally in the sex industry in the past, if she is a good teacher? Prudery?

                            Judgement.

                            It shows a society's poor judgement when a competent teacher is prevented from teaching just because said teacher also worked in the sex industry in the past. Such prudery wastes human talents.

                            It's a competitive world -- if you have two equally qualified candidates, one with a sketchy past, and one without, you hire the one without. The world is full of talented human beings, your position would make sense if that talent was in dire need, otherwise it seems more obvious that she wasted her own opportunities and truncated her own future by poor choices which made her less competitive. People do this all the time on a whole range of decisions.

                            I'm sure her considerable talents lie elsewhere... 😉

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                            @Ivorythumper said in Don't be a whore.:

                            It's a competitive world -- if you have two equally qualified candidates, one with a sketchy past, and one without, you hire the one without.

                            Agreed. But what if the one with the sketchy past is more qualified?

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                              Qualifications are very good on paper, but at least as important is how someone presents themself. I have frequently hired the less qualified individual who I felt had the chutzpah to learn quickly and be an asset to the team. You can teach technical skills. Teaching interpersonal relations and drive is a lot harder. I have also had to fire people who were very qualified to the point where they felt they knew better than anyone else there.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • kluursK kluurs

                                People do things to survive - and if that's what she had to do - so be it, but she should have shown more discretion in sharing that information.

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                                @kluurs said in Don't be a whore.:

                                People do things to survive - and if that's what she had to do - so be it, but she should have shown more discretion in sharing that information.

                                I definitely would agree that survival is a very good reason but I would have to understand why doing this was necessary for survival.

                                People are routinely cancelled, deplatformed, lose their jobs etc for their politics but this is okay? Please walk me through that someone.

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                                  Yes. I question why someone who has gotten to be a grad student has to sell their body and integrity to survive. Student loans are just not that tough to get. I think it safe to assume that this was simply a way she found more convenient and lucrative. I'd sure never marry her.

                                  What kind of a teacher do you think I am?

                                  We've already established that.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    I have no doubt a good prostitute could teach my boy plenty but that’s not what school is for.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    • KlausK Klaus

                                      @Ivorythumper said in Don't be a whore.:

                                      It's a competitive world -- if you have two equally qualified candidates, one with a sketchy past, and one without, you hire the one without.

                                      Agreed. But what if the one with the sketchy past is more qualified?

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                                      @Klaus She's in NYC. Should be able to find several thousand applicants as or more qualified without a sketchy past.

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        Qualifications are very good on paper, but at least as important is how someone presents themself. I have frequently hired the less qualified individual who I felt had the chutzpah to learn quickly and be an asset to the team. You can teach technical skills. Teaching interpersonal relations and drive is a lot harder. I have also had to fire people who were very qualified to the point where they felt they knew better than anyone else there.

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                                        @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                                        Qualifications are very good on paper, but at least as important is how someone presents themself. I have frequently hired the less qualified individual who I felt had the chutzpah to learn quickly and be an asset to the team. You can teach technical skills. Teaching interpersonal relations and drive is a lot harder. I have also had to fire people who were very qualified to the point where they felt they knew better than anyone else there.

                                        I'm sure her interpersonal relational skills, technical skills, and willingness to do what the job requires are all first rate...

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          Yes. I question why someone who has gotten to be a grad student has to sell their body and integrity to survive. Student loans are just not that tough to get. I think it safe to assume that this was simply a way she found more convenient and lucrative. I'd sure never marry her.

                                          What kind of a teacher do you think I am?

                                          We've already established that.

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                                          @Mik said in Don't be a whore.:

                                          Yes. I question why someone who has gotten to be a grad student has to sell their body and integrity to survive.

                                          Why do you assume that sex work means the selling one's integrity? Selling with lies is selling one's integrity. A telemarketer scamming unsuspecting consumers is selling his integrity. A promoter selling "investment products" with lies is selling his integrity. Selling sex per se is not selling one's integrity.

                                          You want to talk about 'selling their body', talk about football players and pugilists -- they routinely engage in physical activities with very high risks of bodily injuries. When done for a paycheck or a scholarship, that's literally "selling their body".

                                          I see no ground to judge prostitutes any more harshly than salespeople or athletes.

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