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  • CopperC Offline
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    Copper
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    #6

    Yes, the USA remains a shining beacon.

    It's sad that so many other places can only dream of freedom.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #7

      Live free or die.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Live free or die.

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        taiwan_girl
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        #8

        @Jolly still don’t understand how some of the request/requirements are not allowing people to live free?

        Its like the actions people are taking are NOT allowing people to be free.

        I would say right now, from a virus standpoint, countries like Taiwan and Thailand are much freer than the US.

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          jon-nyc
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          #9

          I think states will (and already are) reimposing restrictions but we won't see any kind of general 'shelter in place' orders, I don't think.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Online
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            Doctor Phibes
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            #10

            Here in MA there's a curfew between 10pm and 5am. I guess it stops bars and night-clubs, but I can't see it making much difference overall.

            Judging by the traffic I see, a ton of people are working as normal.

            I was only joking

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @Jolly still don’t understand how some of the request/requirements are not allowing people to live free?

              Its like the actions people are taking are NOT allowing people to be free.

              I would say right now, from a virus standpoint, countries like Taiwan and Thailand are much freer than the US.

              CopperC Offline
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              Copper
              wrote on last edited by
              #11

              @taiwan_girl

              governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed

              We don't like the governor to make up rules without our consent

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @Jolly still don’t understand how some of the request/requirements are not allowing people to live free?

                Its like the actions people are taking are NOT allowing people to be free.

                I would say right now, from a virus standpoint, countries like Taiwan and Thailand are much freer than the US.

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #12

                @taiwan_girl said in Lockdown:

                @Jolly still don’t understand how some of the request/requirements are not allowing people to live free?

                Its like the actions people are taking are NOT allowing people to be free.

                I would say right now, from a virus standpoint, countries like Taiwan and Thailand are much freer than the US.

                Define "freedom".

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @taiwan_girl said in Lockdown:

                  @Jolly still don’t understand how some of the request/requirements are not allowing people to live free?

                  Its like the actions people are taking are NOT allowing people to be free.

                  I would say right now, from a virus standpoint, countries like Taiwan and Thailand are much freer than the US.

                  Define "freedom".

                  taiwan_girlT Online
                  taiwan_girlT Online
                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  @Jolly said in Lockdown:

                  @taiwan_girl said in Lockdown:

                  @Jolly still don’t understand how some of the request/requirements are not allowing people to live free?

                  Its like the actions people are taking are NOT allowing people to be free.

                  I would say right now, from a virus standpoint, countries like Taiwan and Thailand are much freer than the US.

                  Define "freedom".

                  In terms of the virus, it means having all businesses open, and as important, no fear from people going to those businesses.

                  I know in the US, there are some states which are saying they’re fully open, but I am guessing there is still a large percent of people who are avoiding some of those businesses due to fears in the virus.

                  In Thailand for example, everything internally is full open. Restaurants, pubs, shopping mall, wedding stores, etc.

                  People still wear a mask, and they do want to know your information if you go into a restaurant or pub For contact tracing purposes

                  You give up some of your privacy freedom in order to have the business is open. So some people in the US who complain about conditions imposed on businesses, are the same people complain about not wanting to wear a mask, not wanting to contact trace, not wanting to social distance. Unfortunately, I’m not sure you can do it both sides.

                  Now of course, Thailand extended the virus bubble over the whole country. There has not been a internal transmitted case in over 200 days.

                  But getting into the country is very difficult. So there has been an economic disaster for some businesses that are related to tourism. But I think that would’ve happened even if they didn’t make it so difficult to get into the country.

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    @Jolly still don’t understand how some of the request/requirements are not allowing people to live free?

                    Its like the actions people are taking are NOT allowing people to be free.

                    I would say right now, from a virus standpoint, countries like Taiwan and Thailand are much freer than the US.

                    LarryL Offline
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                    #14

                    @taiwan_girl said in Lockdown:

                    @Jolly still don’t understand how some of the request/requirements are not allowing people to live free?

                    Its like the actions people are taking are NOT allowing people to be free.

                    I would say right now, from a virus standpoint, countries like Taiwan and Thailand are much freer than the US.

                    Then go live there and stop telling Americans what to do.

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                      #15

                      @George-K said in Lockdown:

                      Osterholm, who serves as director of the Center of Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, said earlier this week that the country is headed toward “Covid hell.” Cases are rising as more people grow tired of wearing masks and social distancing, suffering from so-called “pandemic fatigue,” he said.

                      <snip>

                      “We could pay for a package right now to cover all of the wages, lost wages for individual workers for losses to small companies to medium-sized companies or city, state, county governments. We could do all of that,” he said. “If we did that, then we could lockdown for four-to-six weeks.”

                      Osterholm was appointed to Biden’s 12-member Covid “advisory board” on Monday.

                      <snip>

                      A representative for Biden did not return CNBC’s request for comment.

                      <end>

                      CNN this morning: "Biden, it was made clear Thursday, does not share that view. "His comments were not in line with the PEOTUS view," a transition aide said."

                      Other newsies may have elaborated on this.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • CopperC Offline
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                        Copper
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                        #16

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                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                          @George-K said in Lockdown:

                          Osterholm, who serves as director of the Center of Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, said earlier this week that the country is headed toward “Covid hell.” Cases are rising as more people grow tired of wearing masks and social distancing, suffering from so-called “pandemic fatigue,” he said.

                          <snip>

                          “We could pay for a package right now to cover all of the wages, lost wages for individual workers for losses to small companies to medium-sized companies or city, state, county governments. We could do all of that,” he said. “If we did that, then we could lockdown for four-to-six weeks.”

                          Osterholm was appointed to Biden’s 12-member Covid “advisory board” on Monday.

                          <snip>

                          A representative for Biden did not return CNBC’s request for comment.

                          <end>

                          CNN this morning: "Biden, it was made clear Thursday, does not share that view. "His comments were not in line with the PEOTUS view," a transition aide said."

                          Other newsies may have elaborated on this.

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #17

                          @Catseye3 said in Lockdown:

                          CNN this morning: "Biden, it was made clear Thursday, does not share that view. "His comments were not in line with the PEOTUS view," a transition aide said."

                          So did he revoke the appointment because this guy's views don't jibe with PEOTUS?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • Catseye3C Catseye3

                            @George-K said in Lockdown:

                            Osterholm, who serves as director of the Center of Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, said earlier this week that the country is headed toward “Covid hell.” Cases are rising as more people grow tired of wearing masks and social distancing, suffering from so-called “pandemic fatigue,” he said.

                            <snip>

                            “We could pay for a package right now to cover all of the wages, lost wages for individual workers for losses to small companies to medium-sized companies or city, state, county governments. We could do all of that,” he said. “If we did that, then we could lockdown for four-to-six weeks.”

                            Osterholm was appointed to Biden’s 12-member Covid “advisory board” on Monday.

                            <snip>

                            A representative for Biden did not return CNBC’s request for comment.

                            <end>

                            CNN this morning: "Biden, it was made clear Thursday, does not share that view. "His comments were not in line with the PEOTUS view," a transition aide said."

                            Other newsies may have elaborated on this.

                            LarryL Offline
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                            Larry
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #18

                            @Catseye3 said in Lockdown:

                            @George-K said in Lockdown:

                            Osterholm, who serves as director of the Center of Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, said earlier this week that the country is headed toward “Covid hell.” Cases are rising as more people grow tired of wearing masks and social distancing, suffering from so-called “pandemic fatigue,” he said.

                            <snip>

                            “We could pay for a package right now to cover all of the wages, lost wages for individual workers for losses to small companies to medium-sized companies or city, state, county governments. We could do all of that,” he said. “If we did that, then we could lockdown for four-to-six weeks.”

                            Osterholm was appointed to Biden’s 12-member Covid “advisory board” on Monday.

                            <snip>

                            A representative for Biden did not return CNBC’s request for comment.

                            <end>

                            CNN this morning: "Biden, it was made clear Thursday, does not share that view. "His comments were not in line with the PEOTUS view," a transition aide said."

                            Other newsies may have elaborated on this.

                            Well it's gospel then. Because everyone knows Biden would NEVER say one thing one day and the opposite the next day... and we all know that CNN is totally trustworthy...

                            Hahahahaaaaaaaa

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                            • George KG George K

                              @Catseye3 said in Lockdown:

                              CNN this morning: "Biden, it was made clear Thursday, does not share that view. "His comments were not in line with the PEOTUS view," a transition aide said."

                              So did he revoke the appointment because this guy's views don't jibe with PEOTUS?

                              taiwan_girlT Online
                              taiwan_girlT Online
                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              @George-K said in Lockdown:

                              @Catseye3 said in Lockdown:

                              CNN this morning: "Biden, it was made clear Thursday, does not share that view. "His comments were not in line with the PEOTUS view," a transition aide said."

                              So did he revoke the appointment because this guy's views don't jibe with PEOTUS?

                              But to play devil advocate, it is good to have different views in the room. You dont want just a group of "yes men" in the room to agree with everything you say. That is just as bad, maybe more bad.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @Catseye3 said in Lockdown:

                                CNN this morning: "Biden, it was made clear Thursday, does not share that view. "His comments were not in line with the PEOTUS view," a transition aide said."

                                So did he revoke the appointment because this guy's views don't jibe with PEOTUS?

                                CopperC Offline
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                                Copper
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #20

                                @George-K said in Lockdown:

                                @Catseye3 said in Lockdown:

                                CNN this morning: "Biden, it was made clear Thursday, does not share that view. "His comments were not in line with the PEOTUS view," a transition aide said."

                                So did he revoke the appointment because this guy's views don't jibe with PEOTUS?

                                Hold on

                                Views?

                                democrat views?

                                The democrats haven't done even one thing in the last 4 years that wasn't motivated by hate for Mr. Trump.

                                That is the only view, it is singular

                                There are no views, just hate Trump

                                Well, maybe green new deal and Hunter's new jobs

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                                • L Offline
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                                  Loki
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #21

                                  Roll out the vaccine faster and quit the fucking drama. Give it voluntarily to everyone 80 and older. How many lives saved?

                                  Oh wait we don’t care about that because too many people have an ax to grind. FFS.

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                                    Catseye3
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                                    Wait a minute, something's screwy here. My post above was pointing out that Biden didn't agree with a guy acting as his advisor. That's not saying that Biden "said one thing and the opposite the next day." It merely says Biden disagreed with something somebody else said.

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    • LarryL Larry

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Lockdown:

                                      @Jolly still don’t understand how some of the request/requirements are not allowing people to live free?

                                      Its like the actions people are taking are NOT allowing people to be free.

                                      I would say right now, from a virus standpoint, countries like Taiwan and Thailand are much freer than the US.

                                      Then go live there and stop telling Americans what to do.

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                                      AndyD
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                                      #23

                                      @Larry said in Lockdown:

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Lockdown:

                                      @Jolly still don’t understand how some of the request/requirements are not allowing people to live free?

                                      Its like the actions people are taking are NOT allowing people to be free.

                                      I would say right now, from a virus standpoint, countries like Taiwan and Thailand are much freer than the US.

                                      Then go live there and stop telling Americans what to do.

                                      Larry, d'you still want to round up people you don't like, I remember you wanting to deport people of certain faiths.
                                      You're so full of yourself you're like one of those Russian Dolls.
                                      I wonder if you're a self made man

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                                        @Larry said in Lockdown:

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Lockdown:

                                        @Jolly still don’t understand how some of the request/requirements are not allowing people to live free?

                                        Its like the actions people are taking are NOT allowing people to be free.

                                        I would say right now, from a virus standpoint, countries like Taiwan and Thailand are much freer than the US.

                                        Then go live there and stop telling Americans what to do.

                                        Larry, d'you still want to round up people you don't like, I remember you wanting to deport people of certain faiths.
                                        You're so full of yourself you're like one of those Russian Dolls.
                                        I wonder if you're a self made man

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                                        Larry
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                                        #24

                                        @AndyD said in Lockdown:

                                        @Larry said in Lockdown:

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Lockdown:

                                        @Jolly still don’t understand how some of the request/requirements are not allowing people to live free?

                                        Its like the actions people are taking are NOT allowing people to be free.

                                        I would say right now, from a virus standpoint, countries like Taiwan and Thailand are much freer than the US.

                                        Then go live there and stop telling Americans what to do.

                                        Larry, d'you still want to round up people you don't like, I remember you wanting to deport people of certain faiths.
                                        You're so full of yourself you're like one of those Russian Dolls.
                                        I wonder if you're a self made man

                                        First, I am most definitely a self made man. The rest of the shit you wrote is 4 year old conspiracy theories even democrats stopped slinging at republicans about 3 years ago. I have never wanted to "round up people". I have never wanted to deport people based on their faith. Both of those topics are deeper than your tiny mind can process.

                                        So tell you what - shut the fuck up you little pussy. If you want to play with me, you need a functioning brain.

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                                        • LarryL Larry

                                          @AndyD said in Lockdown:

                                          @Larry said in Lockdown:

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Lockdown:

                                          @Jolly still don’t understand how some of the request/requirements are not allowing people to live free?

                                          Its like the actions people are taking are NOT allowing people to be free.

                                          I would say right now, from a virus standpoint, countries like Taiwan and Thailand are much freer than the US.

                                          Then go live there and stop telling Americans what to do.

                                          Larry, d'you still want to round up people you don't like, I remember you wanting to deport people of certain faiths.
                                          You're so full of yourself you're like one of those Russian Dolls.
                                          I wonder if you're a self made man

                                          First, I am most definitely a self made man. The rest of the shit you wrote is 4 year old conspiracy theories even democrats stopped slinging at republicans about 3 years ago. I have never wanted to "round up people". I have never wanted to deport people based on their faith. Both of those topics are deeper than your tiny mind can process.

                                          So tell you what - shut the fuck up you little pussy. If you want to play with me, you need a functioning brain.

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                                          AndyD
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                                          @Larry said in Lockdown:

                                          First, I am most definitely a self made man.

                                          Brave of you to admit it

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